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July 27, 2012 5:01 pm at 5:01 pm #604306
So I go to a mikva today to tovel my new backpacking pots. ($8 dollars from Dick’s Sporting goods; aluminum pots; weigh a couple ounces).
There is a sign in the mikva: “Usage of this mikva is not free. Please deposit money in the box”.
And I’m thinking, what do you mean it isn’t free? Of course it is free! Look, you walk in, you dip your stuff, you leave your garbage on the floor, you leave your stickers on the mikva lid, and you walk out. And make yummy cupcakes in your new pans. What is not free about that?
So tell me: What makes them think that my gezeilah is worse than their sheker?July 27, 2012 5:08 pm at 5:08 pm #1008558CsarMember
Who are you dedicating this troll thread to?July 27, 2012 5:13 pm at 5:13 pm #1008559
In honor of all the stupid serious posts that will be posted when I bump my “In honor of Tisha b’av” thread.
(Please don’t bump it before tisha b’av, everyone. It is only for tisha b’av, and I don’t want to use up all our serious posts before then.)July 27, 2012 5:21 pm at 5:21 pm #1008560Sam2Participant
PBA: Those are mutually exclusive events. If you committed G’zeilah, then they weren’t lying. And if they were lying, then you didn’t steal.July 27, 2012 5:24 pm at 5:24 pm #1008561
PBA: Those are mutually exclusive events. If you committed G’zeilah, then they weren’t lying. And if they were lying, then you didn’t steal.
Exactly. So it is free.July 27, 2012 5:30 pm at 5:30 pm #1008562gavra_at_workParticipant
Not free as in it costs the owners for you to use it. It doesn’t cost you anything!July 4, 2013 7:24 pm at 7:24 pm #1008563
oh, here’s where I’d asked to not bump itJuly 4, 2013 10:17 pm at 10:17 pm #1008564Ðash®Participant
How do you make cupcakes in backpacking pots?July 5, 2013 2:28 am at 2:28 am #1008565
Had you started a thread to ask not to bump it, maybe I would have noticed, and bumped it.July 7, 2013 2:42 pm at 2:42 pm #1008566pixelateMember
I don’t understand this ^ whole thread.- Why does a messy mik mean they can’t charge you to use it?
It cost money to build, right?July 7, 2013 3:37 pm at 3:37 pm #1008568
Popa you must tip before you dip and don’t give any lip for if your tongue does slip and someones feelings you do snip because of on your shoulder there is a chip then said person will put his fist in a grip and through a straw your meals will you have to sip.July 7, 2013 3:50 pm at 3:50 pm #1008569frumeyidParticipant
Goq, I like that! Made me chuckle.July 7, 2013 4:14 pm at 4:14 pm #1008570gotbeerParticipant
Greatest post ever……!!!!!!!!!!!July 7, 2013 5:36 pm at 5:36 pm #1008571
Thank you frumeyid and gotbeer.July 7, 2013 7:02 pm at 7:02 pm #1008572
I’m bringing goq to the mikva next time. I need protection.July 7, 2013 7:20 pm at 7:20 pm #1008574
I got your back popa and i know you are withholding praise during this mournful period but come chatzos on yud av i want my kudos.July 8, 2013 9:13 pm at 9:13 pm #1008575ItcheSrulikMember
Popa: Of course when you said “Then it’s free” in response to Sam2 that implies that you paid. If you paid for a free mikva, that makes you a freier.July 9, 2013 6:35 am at 6:35 am #1008576
Indeed, only a freier would pay for a free mikva.March 13, 2014 5:26 am at 5:26 am #1008577
This thread is funny I am bumping without popas permission.March 13, 2014 2:34 pm at 2:34 pm #1008578amichaiParticipant
not keeping with the purim spirit, why don’t the users throw out all the garbage they take off the dishes, utensils etc. usually they even provide a garbage can near the keilim mikva for usage.March 14, 2014 8:52 pm at 8:52 pm #1008579🍫Syag LchochmaParticipant
i think people are hesitant to throw the garbage away because if they decide to return the stuff they want to be able to come back and find all the wrappings.March 15, 2014 12:10 pm at 12:10 pm #1008580no longer need seminaryMember
“(Please don’t bump it before tisha b’av, everyone. It is only for tisha b’av, and I don’t want to use up all our serious posts before then.)”
PBA- coz its very hard for you to think of serious posts.March 16, 2014 10:59 pm at 10:59 pm #1008581
You know Popa, some people (namely the Gra and Rabbi Abadi) hold aluminum doesn’t have to be tovelled.March 16, 2014 11:10 pm at 11:10 pm #1008582
A Freilichin Purim, Yitayningwut!March 17, 2014 1:34 am at 1:34 am #1008583
A MEGA MEGA MEGA WELCOME BACK TO YITAYNINGWUT!!!!!!!!!!March 17, 2014 11:38 am at 11:38 am #1008584
A freilichen Purim DY, Thanks Goq 🙂March 17, 2014 1:26 pm at 1:26 pm #1008585
I’m not in Yerushhalayim, but thanks. 🙂
The shittos regarding tevilah of aluminum range from patur, chayav mid’rabbonon, to chayav mid’Oraisa.March 17, 2014 1:42 pm at 1:42 pm #1008586
yes, but where I come from, “doesn’t have to be toveled” is code for “tovel without a bracha”.
Interesting, I didn’t know aluminum was different than other metals. But honestly, in the time I would have spent figuring out whether to tovel it, I just dumped it in the bath.
Goes back to http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/annoying-too-many-people-care-about-halachaMarch 17, 2014 2:08 pm at 2:08 pm #1008587
The shittos regarding tevilah of aluminum range from patur, chayav mid’rabbonon, to chayav mid’Oraisa.
I’ve actually heard some say it is pattur aval assur.March 17, 2014 4:22 pm at 4:22 pm #1008588
The opinion is based on the position that only the six metals mentioned in the Torah require tevilah and glass is the only thing they decreed upon to tovel without a bracha.
The six metals are gold, silver, copper, iron, tin, and lead.
Stainless steel, by the way, is included, since steel is made with iron.March 17, 2014 4:25 pm at 4:25 pm #1008589apushatayidParticipant
i heard it was a shayla of pas akum.March 17, 2014 4:41 pm at 4:41 pm #1008590oomisParticipant
You know Popa, some people (namely the Gra and Rabbi Abadi) hold aluminum doesn’t have to be tovelled.”
I have only actually heard that idea in relation to aluminum FOIL pans. But bottom line, if ever you have a safeik bracha on keilim that are being toveled, bring along something that absolutely MUST be toveled, and make the brocha over those items, with the idea in mind that IF the other items actually required tevilah, then the brocha also covers them.March 17, 2014 5:05 pm at 5:05 pm #1008591
If you go yourself to the mikva and also tovel keilim at the same time, can you make one bracha for both?
Al hatevila v’al tevilas keilim?
Al tevilas keilim v’gufim?March 17, 2014 5:31 pm at 5:31 pm #1008592HaLeiViParticipant
Al TeviloseinuMarch 17, 2014 5:43 pm at 5:43 pm #1008593
I have only actually heard that idea in relation to aluminum FOIL pans.
Well, I have heard it in relation to all kinds of aluminum. It’s in Ohr Yitzchak II YD 17, and the Gra is cited there as well.March 17, 2014 6:05 pm at 6:05 pm #1008594akupermaParticipant
Many places have free mikvos for keilim, sometimes with big signs on the halcha and the brachos, and a trash can for the stickers and packaging. Stores sometimes have a mikva for keilim.March 18, 2014 6:02 pm at 6:02 pm #1008595jewishfeminist02Member
My rav’s psak on aluminum pans: buy it; take it home; bend it backwards such that it’s not usable; bend it back again. Now, since you fixed it from an unusable state, it’s as if you made it, and since you’re a Jew, it doesn’t require toveling. And the whole thing takes less than a minute 🙂March 18, 2014 11:49 pm at 11:49 pm #1008596LogicianParticipant
DY or Sam2, could you weigh in here ? Is that called broken ? Was it ever really in a ‘defferent state’ ? I’m not liking that svara.March 19, 2014 12:27 am at 12:27 am #1008597
I don’t like the sevara either. If it’s something anyone can easily fix, it was never broken.
There are legitimate heterim not to tovel aluminum disposables, though.March 19, 2014 12:57 am at 12:57 am #1008598👑RebYidd23Participant
Here’s my psak–buy aluminum, and make it into a pan. That’s definitely ok.March 19, 2014 3:11 am at 3:11 am #1008599squeakParticipant
Has the rov heard of shape memory? Maybe part of the memory is that the aluminum remembers a goy made it?
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