September 7, 2010 2:55 am at 2:55 am #592302popa_bar_abbaParticipant
I got to thinking about keilim and started writing. This was the result:
Fish which were placed on a (meat) plate, may be eaten with dairy.
The Shulchan Aruch, following this gemara rules that if a parve food is cooked in a meat pot, it may be eaten with milk, and vice versa. Nevertheless, one should not cook a parve food in a meat pot if his intention is to eat it with milk.
Even though it may not be eaten with milk, it may be eaten in, and even cooked in, milk utensils. Care should be taken not to pour it hot from the meat pot to the milk utensil, if one does so, the bottom utensil should be considered assur, as well as the food. (In the instance of pouring into the milk pot, it will only be assur if the milk pot was also used for milk within 24 hours.)
If food is merely placed on a meat plate (which was used for meat within 24 hours), even if one or both are hot from heat of kli rishon, it may be eaten with milk and cooked in a milk pot. In this instance, care should again be taken to avoid pouring directly from the meat plate onto the milk or milk pot; if you do so, the bottom pot and food will be assur- (in the instance of pouring into the milk pot, it will only be assur if the milk pot was also used for milk within 24 hours.)
In the previous case of the food placed on a meat plate, one should not purposely put his food hot onto a meat plate if his intention is to eat it with milk.September 7, 2010 9:29 pm at 9:29 pm #694946tomim tihyeMember
Yasher Koach!September 8, 2010 2:08 am at 2:08 am #694947oomisParticipant
I am frankly surprised to learn of some of these statements. I personally wouldn’t feel comfortable to do it. If I cook a pareve item in a fleishig pot, it is only eaten with fleishig utensils, though I WILL eat milchig items immediately thereafter, as I have not become fleishig. I would never put it on a dairy plate, though.September 8, 2010 3:29 am at 3:29 am #694948popa_bar_abbaParticipant
I know! Isn’t it fun once you know all the things you can do!
By way of advice; if you really do all these things, you’ll probably end up with a treif kitchen. It is far too easy to get confused.
But I have sources for everything. YD 95 Mechaber, Rema, Shach, Taz. and that Gra 95:10 (it’s 95, not 94, I wrote this essay from memory)
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