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  • #1898115
    Health
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    Came you Name them?

    #1898360
    akuperma
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    Religious Jews.
    WASPs (once the majority, a minority for at least the last century)
    Working class whites
    Non-atheists in general
    Christians in particular (now a minority for the first time)
    Males

    #1898389
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Health,

    Indians (not native Americans)

    #1898400
    Reb Eliezer
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    Not every religuous Jew is Pro – Trump.

    #1898421
    Sarah S
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    To RE – Not all religious Jews…only the ones that have a clue and brain cells that function!!!

    #1898435
    Reb Eliezer
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    Sarah S, I would not want to bring up my children to learn Trump’s behavior, lying, calling people names which according to us has no part in the world to come and getting rid of his advisors because he knows everything better than anyone else.

    #1898439
    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    Reb E – we don’t bring up our children to learn any presidents behavior. Ever since bill clinton, i won’t allow the radio to be on in the car at all, never was on in the house and we don’t have tv or newspapers. I get information and relay whatever they need to know. Why would you be involvong children in political heads behavior?

    #1898477
    charliehall
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    Religious Jews who care about Torah values like modesty, honesty in business, honesty in relationships, honesty in speech and writing, and integrity as a public official will be voting for Biden. Most of my community will be.

    #1898482
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    There are a lot of conservative Hispanics in Texas and Florida. There are many black people who support Trump.

    #1898491
    akuperma
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    Given the Democrat’s open toleration for anti-Semitism, it will be increasingly hard for frum Jews to vote Democrat. Democrats come out for ideas such as banning Bris Milah, closing down non-public schools, and affirmative action programs designed in part to discriminate against us, and the list is long. The “old” Democrats would have kicked people like Al Sharpton, of DeBlasio, or the squad out of the party (at least in New York State, the Old Democrats had no problem working with southern racists).

    #1898507
    hershh
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    make no mistake there is no Joe Biden. He has nioidea what’s flying. It’s a bunch of special interests ananti-semites pro arab thugs that are running the democ-rat party. no frum yid can associate with them.

    #1898508
    hershh
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    make no mistake there is no Biden. he doesn’t know what day is today.

    #1898510
    Health
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    Oh Charlie, -“Religious Jews who care about Torah values like modesty, honesty in business, honesty in relationships, honesty in speech and writing, and integrity as a public official will be voting for Biden. Most of my community will be.”

    Ya’ see – when you promote Religious Values as the Reason for whom to vote for – you have to Vote for Trump!
    Trump given the chance will appoint Conservative Supreme Court Judges.
    They will overturn a lot of the Liberal Judgements from the Past!

    IDK if you’re aware, but the Torah has Priorities.
    Stopping Gay Marriage & Abortions are More important than other Torah priorities!!!

    #1898558
    besalel
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    Of course not every frum jew is pro-trump but an overwhelming majority of frum jews will vote for trump, whether they are pro trump or not, whether they are liberal or conservative or neither, they will vote trump. The frum vote is more lined up behind trump than any prior presidential candidate since Reagan. There will be frum jews, many of them, who will vote Biden – there is nothing wrong with that – we all must respect each other’s votes and opinions – but this one is not even close – most frum jews, across the entire conservadox/blackhat spectrum will vote for trump in November.

    #1898559
    Reb Eliezer
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    health, Ahavas Chased Michah (6,8) which unites, but not Trump, is the most important. Rashi says on Mishom Hefitzom in Parashas Noach that the Dor Haflaga even worshipping a’z were not killed because there was unity among them. We abhor toava behavior but advocate caring for each other.

    #1898564
    Reb Eliezer
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    Syag, I applaud you but not everyone is able to do that as the president is looked at as a model of behavior. Clinton’s behavior was private which was publicized whereas your president flaunts his bad behavior.

    #1898582
    huju
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    I hope the supporters of Trump are a minority when all the votes are counted after election day. And, akuperma, where did you get your numbers about minorities? And what is a “minority”? Any group that is less than 50% of total US population?

    #1898604
    Health
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    RE -” We abhor toava behavior but advocate caring for each other.”

    That post is Megaleh Ponin B’Halacha SheLo KeDin.
    Do you actually think that Trump is Responsible for all the Violence in the USA? Portland is Run by DemonCrats. The Feds left Portland a month ago – so why is there Still Riots nightly?!?

    “worshipping a’z were not killed because there was unity among them”

    Well maybe you won’t get Punished for Voting DemonCrat, even though they Promote 2 out of 3 Aveirah Chamuros (Killing & Mishcav Zochor), because you have Unity amongst other DemonCrats?!?

    #1898602
    akuperma
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    huju: A minority is by definition any group that is under 50% of the population (at least that is based on dictionaries). I believe the “woke” definition defines “minority” as belonging to a group that holds a politically correct position and is entitled to special privileges. The African Americans are a qualified minority, unless they are too religious or hold conservative economic and political positions. For more about the “woke” methodology and use of terminology, I suggest reading “1984” by George Orwell.

    #1898725
    PROUD REPUBLICAN
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    @charliehall I wonder where you live. Jews vote for trump.

    #1898810
    Reb Eliezer
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    heakth, Trump is empowering the riots. Abortiion is not murder for Jews and peoole do it as a last resort . Don’t tell me what the din is because I don’t think you know. He contributed to the death of 190,000 people by not planing early enough and opening up to soon. He fires his best advisors because he thinks he knows everything better than them which is a dangerous. He does not know what reality is over conspiracies like Qanon.

    #1898843
    Health
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    RE -“heakth, Trump is empowering the riots.”

    How so?
    Even if you come back with something ; you still can’t Vote DemonCrat because there is No Sholom!
    So it Upshlogs your Far-out Answer.

    “Abortiion is not murder for Jews and peoole do it as a last resort.”

    First of all, there is a 5 way argument when it comes to a Jewish Abortion.
    But it’s irrevelent, because Most of this Country is Not Jewish.

    “Don’t tell me what the din is because I don’t think you know.”

    I surely Know more than you!

    “He contributed to the death of 190,000 people by not planing early enough and opening up to soon. He fires his best advisors because he thinks he knows everything better than them which is a dangerous”

    LOL! He didn’t fire that Fauci.
    He should have; because he’s against HCQ + Zinc!

    #1898845
    Reb Eliezer
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    health, By condoning murder by police, he created riots. Democrats provide more Sholom than Trump. The fact that you think you know more shows you know less as the Torah resides with the humble. Fauci when listened to would have provided more protection from the virus than anyone else.

    #1898849
    Reb Eliezer
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    When a baby is killed, the Torah penalizes with money because according to the Rav Chezkuni there life only starts at birth.

    #1898854
    Health
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    RE -“When a baby is killed, the Torah penalizes with money because according to the Rav Chezkuni there life only starts at birth.”

    AGAIN – there is a 5 way argument when it comes to a Jewish Abortion. THERE’S Something called Achronim!

    #1898856
    Health
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    RE -“health, By condoning murder by police, he created riots”

    There hasn’t been any trials yet.
    It’s Ossur to Lie about out President!

    #1898859
    Reb Eliezer
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    The president is a lie who has no empathy to anyone else outside of himself and his primary family.

    #1898923
    Health
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    RE -“The president is a lie who has no empathy to anyone else outside of himself and his primary family.”

    YOU must be talking about Obama.
    Cause if you’re talking about Trump – go watch the Video that the Black Sec. of HUD said about Him!

    #1898966
    Reb Eliezer
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    The sec of Hud, a white in black clothing, who became sec because of Trump’s great advocacy in 2016, does not support his own kind and condones Trump’s over 20,000 lies.

    #1898978
    CTLAWYER
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    @CoffeeAddict

    I know many Indian-Americans who are Anti-Trump, starting with the Democrat Running for the CT House in my area.
    The Times of India reported on Mat 12, 2020 that:
    “Indian-Americans most likely to be Democrats of any Asian-or ..”

    50% support or identify as Democrats and on;y 18% as Republicans.

    #1899002
    Health
    Participant

    RE -“The sec of Hud, a white in black clothing,”

    You just proved what Officer Taton & many Other Black Conservatives say – the real Racists are the DemonCrats, because they say – Blacks can’t think for themselves!
    Biden said it outright -“If you don’t know who to Vote for – You ain’t BLACK”!

    #1899010
    n0mesorah
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    Dear Health and Reb Eliezer,

    My religious values have no basis in the presidency. Even more, they are not relatable to what The Supreme Court rules. The only value my religion describes to the courts, is that it should have a sustainable system of justice. [Nou sure he you know what that is..] I expect the President to uphold his office, whomever that may be. If your religion is dependant on handicapping political history, why not just worship politics itself?

    #1899017
    Reb Eliezer
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    Republicans Colin Powel, John Kasick and George W. Bush don’t support Trump because they see through him. Why don’t they support him? They see that he is only out for himself.

    #1899027
    n0mesorah
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    Dear Reb Eliezer,

    Real conservative republicans do not support Trump, because he is not a conservative. And Biden is closer to the not to recent Republican platforms.

    #1899022
    Reb Eliezer
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    Biden said that because he felt that the policies he advocates are beneficial for the blacks.

    #1899043
    Health
    Participant

    RE -“Biden said that because he felt that the policies he advocates are beneficial for the blacks.”

    All the conservative Blacks feel it’s a worse form of Slavery!
    Yep, just give handouts, so there is No incentive to Work.

    #1899071
    CTLAWYER
    Participant

    @Health
    The Secy of HUD may have been a brain surgeon, but is titally unqualified to run HUD.
    Like many, who become wealthy, he became a Republican to separate himself from the community from which he sprang.
    He was a street thug as a teen who should have spend his life in prison for attempted murder, but the social programs that the ‘defund the police’ advocates want kept him out of the system and got him an education.
    BUT, that horribble piece of garbage Besty DeVos, wholly unqualified to be Secy of Education would do away with all the educational programs that help minorities and the poor rise from their lowly beginnings.
    In the Black community, the HUD Secy is laughed at and known as an Uncle Tom or worse edited. A word I don’t use or condone, but have seen and heard being used to describe him

    #1899236
    Health
    Participant

    CTLawyer -“Like many, who become wealthy, he became a Republican to separate himself from the community from which he sprang.”

    A typical LIBERAL LIE!
    He became a Conservative when he first moved to Balto. to do his residency.
    He became a Republican in 1981.
    Residents don’t Make a lot of money.
    He saw what Balto. (run by DemonCrats) has done to the Black Community, at least since the 60’s.

    “He was a street thug as a teen who should have spend his life in prison for attempted murder,”

    Funny – it’s you Libs who think our Justice System is Biased against Blacks. But many Lib states don’t Even give Life in Jail for actual MURDER!
    The reason he got off from the Attempted Murder Charge – because the Knife hit the Victim’s Belt Buckle.
    He got lucky.

    “…and got him an education”

    He actually did Poorly in the Black PS in Detroit, Like in Most Inner Cities, Run by your Party!
    Later on he excelled by going to White Public School.
    From his Bio.:
    “Carson attended the predominantly white Higgins Elementary School for fifth and sixth grades and the predominantly white Wilson Junior High School for seventh and the first half of eighth grade.”
    Then he went back to the Black PS, but he was already Motivated.

    #1899281
    CTLAWYER
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    @Health
    Political parties don’t run public schools.
    They are run by Superintendents of Schools who hold such a license.
    Governments fund the schools.

    #1899306
    Health
    Participant

    CTLawyer -“They are run by Superintendents of Schools.”

    From Wikipedia:
    “The school board is the superintendent’s boss.”
    They are elected. If the town is mostly Black, like Detroit, and they vote DemonCrat – you could almost be sure that they will vote DemonCrat for the School Board!
    So why do the Inner Cities run by DemonCrats, including the School Board, have such Poor Education?!?

    #1899525
    CTLAWYER
    Participant

    @Health
    Wikipedia is not a credible source.
    I grew up in a large city whose BOE is NOT elected.
    Boards of Education hire the Superintendent, but do not micromanage the schools. Superintendents are generally contract employees and tend to outlast the terms of the BOE.
    Our town’s new Superintendent has a three year contract, the BOE is elected for a two year term. The term is up in 2021, the Super will be here until at least 2023.

    BTW, our BOE is split 1/2 R, 1/2 D

    #1899551
    Health
    Participant

    CTLawyer -“I grew up in a large city whose BOE is NOT elected.”

    Who Cares?!?
    We were Talking about Detroit. Those Inner Cities that are Run by DemonCrats have Very POOR PS. It doesn’t Matter who Actually is in Charge – the Board or the Super or the Gov.
    WHY do they have Very POOR Public Schools?!?

    #1899673
    n0mesorah
    Participant

    Dear Health,

    Detroit has poor everything. And even the squirrels are black.Old news.

    #1900537
    charliehall
    Participant

    “He saw what Balto. (run by DemonCrats) has done to the Black Community, at least since the 60’s.”

    You clearly do not understand Baltimore at all. It enacted mandatory racial segregation in housing over a century ago, the first city to do so, and that became the model for the rest of the US. Back then, blacks voted Republican, but the Republicans didn’t want them any more than the Democrats did. The Republican Party from the 1870s to the 1930s tried to systematically exclude blacks from leadership but nevertheless five black Republicans managed to get themselves elected to the Baltimore City Council! The reason is unlike the rest of the South, the racists never managed to prevent blacks from voting. 🙂

    By the 1960s the Democrats were kicking their racists out and blacks have been voting Democratic ever since. The last Republican mayor of Baltimore was elected in 1963; he was appalled by the opposition of Barry Goldwater and other Republicans (including Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush) to civil fights and endorsed Lyndon Johnson for President. The last Republican to carry Baltimore in a general election was the liberal US Senator Charles Mathias in 1980. Mathias’ last public act before he died was to endorse Barack Obama for President in 2008. Baltimore went to single member City Council districts a while back; some hoped that that might allow a Republican to win a seat (that last time that had happened was in 1937) but the decades long history of Republicans waging war on Baltimore has made that impossible.

    Nevertheless the main problem Baltimore faces is a lack of tax base as it has been prohibited since the late 1940s from annexing suburbs. Note that pretty much every booming city in America has either consolidated city and county government (Louisville, Lexington, Indianapolis, Jacksonville — NYC, Philadelphia, and San Francisco had already done this in the 19th century) or been allowed to annex suburbs like crazy (Houston, Phoenix, Dallas, San Antonio, San Diego, San Jose, Los Angeles).

    #1900633
    Health
    Participant

    Oh Charlie, -“Nevertheless the main problem Baltimore faces is a lack of tax base as it has been prohibited since the late 1940s from annexing suburbs.”
    So you believe that Baltimore should be just like Robin Hood, you steal from the Rich and give to the Poor.
    Baltimore pop. was around 900 thou, but it’s down around 600 – 400 thou.
    Most of those leaving are middle class Blacks.
    They are sick and tired of the High Crime & poor schooling.
    That’s why they’re Running to the Burbs!
    But the Libs want that to be the whole US of A.
    E/O should Vote DemonCrats!

    #1901200
    n0mesorah
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    Downtown Baltimore is fun!

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