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  • #2459303
    Zushy
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    Why are Mishpacha magazine writing a cover article suggesting that Mamdani is not so bad? Has anything changed since the hostages were released? Is there some major shinui that we are not aware of? Or is there an agreement with potential gains for the Orthodox community?

    #2460010
    SQUARE_ROOT
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    No offense intended, but I find it difficult to believe that Mishpacha magazine
    wrote an article suggesting that Zohran Mamdani is not so bad.

    Mishpacha magazine cannot be that stupid.
    Mishpacha magazine cannot be that wicked.

    There are so many serious problems with Zohran Mamdani and his policies,
    that I do not have the time or the patience to list even half of them.

    Suffice to say that his sympathies are 100% with the
    so-called “Palestinians” (phoney-stinians) and Hamas.

    Suffice to say that his economic policies have a proven
    record of total failure in other cities and other nations.

    #2460016
    ujm
    Participant

    Mishpacha and Ami are left-wing rags. Both always have been that since the very first issues the each published.

    #2460020
    Sam Klein
    Participant

    Cause he comes from the MISHPACHA of Yishmael which is DIRECTLY FROM THE SAME MISHPACHA OF KLAL YISROEL our loving forefather Avraham avinu

    #2460068
    HaKatan
    Participant

    That publication was banned by the gedolim. They also lean rather liberal/leftist.

    #2460186
    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    Hakatan,

    Which gedolim?

    #2460214
    SQUARE_ROOT
    Participant

    When was Mishpacha magazine banned by the Chareidi Gedolim?

    Which Chareidi Gedolim banned Mishpacha magazine?

    #2460225
    besalel
    Participant

    I am more disturbed by how many frum people are telling me they will vote for Sliwa. Curtis Sliwa is a good man and Cuomo is a slimeball but only the slimeball can defeat Mamdani. If someone can show me ONE poll from any county in the USA in the last 100 years where the person polling at 15% with two people ahead of him actually won the race I would say, vote for Sliwa. But it doesnt happen ever and it wont happen now. The threat of Mamdani is very real. It will be open season on jews like it was under Dinkins. Do Ari Halberstam and Yankel Rosenbaum mean anything to us? This will be Dinkins on steroid as we will have actual Jihadists hunting Jews on the streets. There is only one way to avoid it and thats to hold your nose and vote for the slimeball Cuomo.

    #2460411
    ujm
    Participant

    Besalel: You’re basically correct but Sliwa would have to pull out of the race completely to give Cuomo a chance to win. In the absence of that happening, and Sliwa has given every indication he’s a kamikaze till the end, Mamdani is going to win. (Even if Sliwa does pull out the odds favor Mamdani.)

    #2460421
    HaKatan
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    #2460422
    HaKatan
    Participant

    besalel:
    Calling Antiochus a “slimeball” is like calling Kastner a Hungarian; that might well be true, but is not at all the concern.
    In fact, Antiochus stated recently that he would do it all over again, not any differently.

    Regardless, Hashem is the one in charge; our job is simply to go through the motions, so to speak, of hishtadlus. Hishtadul would indicate to vote the candidate most aligned with Torah values, and then let Hashem run His world.

    #2460752
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Hakatan

    From the article you quoted

    “It should be noted that this is in regards to the Mishpacha in Israel. It is unknown what the relation to Mishpacha Magazine in the U.S.A. is.“

    We’re talking about the mishpacha in the US, please don’t confuse the two

    #2460782
    amiricanyeshivish
    Participant

    In the link to Rav Eliyashiv’s ban on Mishpacha magazine it concludes

    “It should be noted that this is in regards to the Mishpacha in Israel. It is unknown what the relation to Mishpacha Magazine in the U.S.A. is.”

    #2461077
    Rocky
    Participant

    Hakatan: The article that you brought is very suspicious.

    1: Mishpacha claims that Rav Elyashiv did not hear their side of the story before announcing a ban. No gadol would do such a thing. Hence it is likely that some shmendric put it out without asking Rav Elyashiv.

    2. There is a difference between the Israeli Mishpacha and the American one.

    #2461164
    brisker
    Participant

    HaKoton;
    The Rabbonim who banned Mishpacha banned the Internet as well, the Mishpacha is much more kosher then YWN who has pictures of ladies,
    (I have nothing against YWN but dont come on YWN and hock Mishpacha that the Rabonim banned it)

    #2461682
    ujm
    Participant

    The Mishpacha in Israel and in America are owned by the same person. And they both share articles (translated).

    Rav Elyashiv never signed anything he didn’t mean to.

    #2461692
    HaKatan
    Participant

    brisker:
    Filters can easily remove images (and you could do so even without filters). But filters cannot and will not remove treif “hashkafos” imparted by banned magazines.

    #2461704

    Rocky > Mishpacha claims that Rav Elyashiv did not hear their side of the story before announcing a ban. No gadol would do such a thing.

    Rocky, I do not read either of Mishpohos, but I listened to a detailed lecture of R Gershon Kamenetsky Z’L detailing his interactions with R Elyashiv about R Gershon’s book about his father – and the only conclusion is that R Eliyashiv did in that case (maybe when he was elderly and the issue was time sensitive) relied on people he trusted. At this point, there are several non-banned respected books that quote R Gershon’s book (that contains high quality research) in length and acknowledge his contribution.

    #2461792
    DaMoshe
    Participant

    Joe, I don’t know what your issue is. Don’t you support Mamdani? Isn’t he like your heroes in Neturei Karta, opposing Israel?

    #2462001
    nishtdayngesheft
    Participant

    AAQ,

    R Gershon Kamenetsky? Who was his father that he was writing about? Rabbi Joe Kamanetsky? I highly doubt that R Elyashiv had anything to do with that book.

    Yes, I know who you think you were referring o, and I think this is just an indication of how people sometimes post so stridently when it is clear that have tremendous amounts of facts completely wrong. And easily verifiable information.

    #2462360

    Nisht, Sorry, I misspoke – R Natan Kamenetsky. Everything else stands.

    #2462712
    nishtdayngesheft
    Participant

    AAQ,

    Your comment was mezuyof metocho. The second part of my comment stands and applies to your comment in its entirety. And it applies to many comments. Yours and others.

    And he was not called R’ “Natan”.

    #2462796

    nisht, you are being passive aggressive – if you disagree with something or have a comment, could you please say so? I can’t read your mind.
    I presume mishpucha called the Rav Nosson, but the title of the book says “Nathan”.

    We might be better off discussing any of the stories he researched over hundreds of pages, many in fine print instead of trading silliness. For example, R Yaakov had a 2nd grade teacher in his Litvish shetl. The class was in teacher’s yard/house. Once Yaakov was late. When teacher asked, he explained that there was a bris and something happened with the knife, and his father sent him to pick up a knife. The teacher did not believe the story and sent Yaakov home. Late in life, R Yaakov was talking with his classmate – R Ruderman and they were wondering what happened with their other friends, who seemingly did not become talmidei chachomim. R Yaakov suggested that this might have been this 2nd grade rebbe’s fault – as R Yaakov remembered the pain of being considered a liar (even as there was no history of that), so maybe others were alienated by this teacher.

    #2462807
    @fakenews
    Participant

    Besalel:
    Use the ranked choice voting to vote for both!

    It allows you to both vote with your conscience and provide a backdrop against Mamdani.

    Here’s the basic math: Mamdani will likely win a plurality but not a majority of first-round votes. At that point, the lowest-performing candidate will be eliminated, and the second-choice votes from those ballots will be redistributed. If Cuomo’s and Sliwa’s supporters rank only those two candidates, whichever performs better in the early rounds will likely win in the final count. So long as no one voting for those two, ranks Mamdani at all.

    #2462869
    Avi K
    Participant

    “The ban was the result of an ongoing feud between Mishpacha and Yated.” That says it all.

    #2463538
    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    I love how @fakenews is spewing fake news

    #2463919
    max dear
    Participant

    He is the winner in the elections for now, so we must learn how to accept or ignore him, but face the fact and deal with him

    #2464047
    SQUARE_ROOT
    Participant

    Max Dear, we cannot “accept or ignore” a NYC mayor who wants to DESTROY us!!!

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