Monarchy vs. Democracy

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    Avi K
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    Truth, on the contrary. Maskilim ignored Rambam in favor of Spinoza.

    #1158093

    charliehall
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    “In the ideal system, which Rambam says will be in place in Mashiach’s time, all these taxes will be paid voluntarily. No need for audits, fines or imprisonment.”

    He makes no such statement in Hilchot Matanot Leevyanim where he writes that anyone not making the required contributions to the community charity fund get flogged and has their property confiscated by beit din. Not exactly anarcho-capitalism.

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    charliehall
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    “IT WAS assuredly for all eras and climes or it’s nothing at all”

    Was polygamy for all eras and climes?

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    charliehall
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    “That is only if the people want such a system.”

    That is a heretical statement that the decrees of Chazal are optional, chas v’shalom!

    #1158096

    charliehall
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    “Abarbanel’s problem with monarchy is that he saw it as always degenerating into tyranny.”

    And it always did until the idea of a monarch with no real power finally evolved in the 19th century.

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    Avi K
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    Charlie, the good kings were not tyrants. There were also enlightened monarchs among the other nations. However, they were few and far between. Moreover, even a non-monarch can be a tyrant. Rav Lior said that the form of government does not so much matter. A good person will be a good king or PM and a bad person will be a tyant.

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    “The tyranny of the majority, is worse than the majority of tyrannies”

    #1158099

    Or How about?

    Bureaucracy

    Rule by a system of governance with many bureaus, administrators, and petty officials

    Uniocracy

    Ruled by a singularity of all human minds connected via some form of technical or non-technical telepathy acting as a form of super computer to make decisions based on shared patterned experiences to deliver fair and accurate decisions to problems as they arrive. Also known as the “Hive Mind” principle, it differs from voting in that each person would make a decision while in the “hive” the synapses of all minds work together following a longer path of memories to make “one” decision.

    Kleptocracy

    Rule by thieves(Mafia state); a system of governance where its officials and the ruling class in general pursue personal wealth and political power at the expense of the wider population.

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    mdd
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    Charlie, polygamy is not a mitsvah. Plus, btw, the Sefardim and the Yemenities still hold of it.

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    Avi K
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    Time (BTW, ‘truth” in Russian is “pravda”),you forgot gerontocracy – the rule of the elderly.

    Mdd, the Sephardi ketuba says that he will not take another wife without her permission. In any case, everywhere it is mentioned in Tanach there is trouble in the family. Once an Arab bragged to an acquaintance of mine that he is allowed four wives. He replied that that means four mothers-in-law. the Arab sighed.

    #1568652

    Agree with Avi k

    a Jewish king is a constitutional monarch not an absolute monarch. He has checks and balances: the Sanhedrin, the nevi’im and the Bet haMikdash aristocracy. according to Radak (interestingly against Abarbanel) not only does one ignore a royal command contrary to a mitzva but the people have an obligation to rebel against a despotic king. In fact, according to the Yerushalmi (Horiot 3:2) the David was removed from office by the people.

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    laskern
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    Look at the Aberbanel for the explanation of Achashverus making the party showing his wealth for 180 days thereby arguing that he is an absolute monarch, the monarchy’s wealth belongs to him and he has full control over his wife.

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