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  • #588993

    bugnot
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    The Zohar Hachdash says in the very end of Parshas Balak that there will be a time when a Bais Haknesses in the South will be destroyed and 5 rightous people will be killed and 32 days later Moshiach ben Yosef will come and nine months after that Moshiach ben Dovid will come.

    There are a few questions on this regarding the Mumbai attacks:

    1- There were six people kiled

    2- India is in the North (You can answer that in the Torah there is no equater & Eretz Yisroel is the center of earth & India is South of E”Y)

    3- Whenever Chazal refer to a place they call it by the name the Torah calls it & the Torah refers to India with a different name – [forgot what the name is] (Zohar uses Loshon of Darom & Torah uses different loshon)

    #629734

    WolfishMusings
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    I have a simple policy when it comes to predicting when Moshiach will come.

    Don’t predict. When he gets here, HaShem will make it perfectly clear. Simply wait for him every day and quit trying to make cheshbonos… you’re only bound to be disappointed if you’re wrong.

    While we’re at it, I have a personal pet theory as to who Moshiach will be:

    Anyone who can get all of K’lal Yisroel to agree that he’s Moshiach has to be the real deal. If someone could get all Ashkenazim and Sephardim, Chassidim (for all different sects) and “Misnagdim,” Yeshivish, MO, Chareidi and DL to agree that he’s Moshiach, then he’s got to be it.

    The Wolf

    #629735

    Bais Yaakov maydel
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    is 32 days later after Mumbai when the Rav from Yemen was killed, HYD?

    #629736

    squeak
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    Those who say do not know, and those who know…. do not say.

    #629737

    tutzech
    Member

    I heard that the klausinberger rebbe said 27 years ago that before mashuach comes people will get killed in india

    #629738

    yenta101
    Member

    wolfishmusings…that is very inspiring (i’m talking about the first thing you said) nowadays ..when a lot of people are talking about when mashiach will come..it is very important to remember (really both things)that you said..thanks!

    #629739

    squeak and the wolf both hit the nail on the head. I couldn’t agree more.

    #629741

    Chacham
    Participant

    Firstly-the rambam holds it is assur to predict it. look in his biur to 13 ikarim #12 [it is in siddur vilna after ani ma`amen. also look at http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pagefeed/14302_249.pdf hayesod 12. [the ramban is cholek on this.]

    Mashiach doesn’t come by talking about it the gemara says in chelek 97b

    ????? ?’ ?????? ???? ?? ????? ????? ????? ?????? ??? ??? ??? ?????? ??? ??? ??? ????? ?? ??? ????? ????? ??? ?????? ??? ???”? ????? ??? ??? ???????? ???? ???? ?????? ????? ????? ??????? ????? translation [found this on the online soncino talmud] R. Eliezer said: if Israel repent, they will be redeemed; if not, they will not be redeemed. R. Joshua said to him, if they do not repent, will they not be redeemed! But the Holy One, blessed be He, will set up a king over them, whose decrees shall be as cruel as Haman’s, whereby Israel shall engage in repentance, and he will thus bring them back to the right path.

    WE SEE FROM THIS THAT MOSHIACH ONLY COMES FROM TESHUVAH. IF WE ARE NOT READY HKB`H WILL FIND A WAY TO GET US TO DO TESHUVAH. NOW TRUST ME I WANT MOSHIACH TO COME BUT INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT– CAUSE HIM TO COME WITH


    TESHUVAH

    #629742

    bugnot
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    before the zohar writes about the attacks on a shul, he writes something about 70 days. Does anyone know what the 70 days are referring to?

    #629743

    tsafstern
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    The 70 days before was when the stock market was crashing.

    But the 32 days later didn’t say it would be the moshiach, but rather, a Kol Shofar Zeir (small). Apparently that was the time the war started in Gaza.

    #629744

    believer
    Participant

    how do you get to this cheshbon???

    #629745

    believer
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    is there a reliable soarce that knows that the story with r’ shachna zhon is true????? if it is true then hes already in his 90’s bli ayen hara. which means that if the chofetz chaim told him to prepare then the geula is really close. canu imagine, after all the years in galus its finally here!! we r the lucky generation. we just have to keep doing mitzvos and maasim tovim and then we will really be the lucky and chosen generation. also there are so many simanim that show that mashiach is really almost here( i know wolfishmusings sed not to predict but im not predictiong just saying things i heard)FOR EXAMPLE. IT SEZ THAT MOSHIACH WILL COME THE YEAR AFTER SHMITA…WAT R WE IN NOW???. anyway MASHIACH HAS TO COME VERY VERY FAST BECAUSE HOW MUCH LONGER COULD THE WORLD GO ON LIKE THIS??? IT BECAME A CRAZY PLACE!!!!!

    #629746

    chofetzchaim
    Member

    I heard the story about R’ Shachna Zohn’s dream from his son

    #629747

    squeak
    Participant

    It was printed in the Hamodia magazine for crying out loud. But not everyone understands what the coming of moshiach means. So wait and see and when he comes you will understand.

    #629748

    believer
    Participant

    wat type is his son?? how did his father react when he had the dream?

    #629749

    qwertyuiop
    Member

    It was in the Mishpacha also, i think.

    #629750

    Jothar
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    The gemara somewhere predicts Moshiach coming after 400 years of golus. the chofetz chaim quotes a Ramban about moshiach coming after 1000 years of golus. So far, we weren’t zoche. the one thing I do know is that all of the poskim agree that Moshiach can’t have died. they also all agree that it is assur to pray to anyone other than Hakodosh Baruch Hu, and that Hashem runs the world by Himself.

    #629751

    qwertyuiop
    Member

    your first statement i never heard but the other ones i have

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