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Is Moshiach said to get married and have children?
Is Moshiach said to get married and have children?
Why would you think not?
The Wolf
Maybe you could be Moshiach’s wife, Lightbrite (if he’s not married yet, or if he reinstates polygamy.) People always talk about being Moshiach’s mother, but that would be really sad because it would mean that he hasn’t even been born yet, so we would probably have to wait at least 20-50 years for him to grow up. But if you decide to be Moshiach’s wife instead of his mother, that solves that problem!
Plenty of ????’s out there, who having the correct name, could try & fill the post of ????.
The again, Gematriah of Moshiach ben Dovid= 424 = Donald Trump ????? ?????
I vaguely remember learning a Rambam that discusses the role of Moshiach’s children. From that, I gather he is married with kids. Anyone know better what I am referring to?
Lightbrite: “LU: I am rooting for monogamy.”
It was a joke.
A newly married girl I know asked her new husband to promise her that he won’t take a second wife when Mashiach comes.
As soon as she told me, she was really embarrassed that she told me.
Assuming that Moshe Rabbeinu is the model of Moshiach, it seems that both being married and having children are prerequisites.
My guess is that a successful spouse and parent requires the same traits as the leader of Om Yisroel. Patience, tolerance and selflessness must be keenly balanced with self-respect and unwavering commitment to the Torah.
Trump can’t be the Moshiach because even if be converts, a convert can’t be a leader which the Moshiach is.
In every generation there are people who are fit to be Moshiach, it’s just that Hashem doesn’t feel that the Jewish nation is ready yet. In order to marry the Mashiach you will need to have married him prior to him being anointed. Unlike the past US presidential election when it comes to Mosiach there are many competent candidates and only Hashem knows who will be appointed. By 20 he will be a Talmud Chachom and a leader and it will be hard to get a date with him. There is a better chance of you giving birth to the Moshiach then marrying him.
As far as Polygamy, even when it was permitted it required the first wife’s permission either at the time of the original marriage or prior to the second marriage. I don’t know why you think in the time of the Moshiach it will be re-instituted. Just as it is said who is a rich man? He who is happy with his lot. So too the same can be said regarding a wife, you don’t need a second wife.
“I don’t know why you think in the time of the Moshiach it will be re-instituted.”
I never said I did.
I actually would guess that either it won’t be or that most people won’t have more than one wife even if it’s technically allowed.
In a perfect world, marriages consist of one man and one woman, imho.
Marriages do consist of one man and one woman even if the man is in more than one marriage.
lightbright: To be a judge in dinei nefoshos, a dayan must have children, and as the novi reads, this part of the job package of Moshiach. The Rebbe, according to most, was childless, which unfortunately seems to prolong the mass neurosis in that chasidus. The motif of the rebbe being the moshiach, or his ability to force the geula, or his being stymied from doing so, are not unique to them, it has a long history in chassidic tales and possibly stems from bava metzia 75b. (recently passed in daf yomi) Now you have some homework for shabat.
“People thought that the Rebbe had all the qualities but Klal Yisroel wasn’t ready.”
Outside of Lubavitch, I think most people thought that he couldn’t possibly be Moshiach.
We are in this world for the purpose of bringing moshiach
That is all .
(There are many mouthing piousness whose goals are ..very different)
We have way too few working(in whatever endeavor) towards that goal
Possibly the saddest accomplishment of Lubavitch is/was they pushed the mainstream to be wary of everyone who emphasized Moshiach
We are in this world for the purpose of bringing moshiach
That is all .
No, we are in this world to serve Hashem by following the Torah.
That is all.
WtP -“From that, I gather he is married with kids.”
Who said – maybe he’s divorced or a widower with kids?!?
DY +1
I think Health is upset because you just disqualified him
j/k – you are right, at least technically. I have a feeling that Moshiach probably has to have a wife though, but I have no sources to back me up.
The Rebbe, according to most, was childless
There’s anyone who disputes this???
The Wolf
DaasYochid,
What else is Moshiach about?!
On A COLLECTIVE Level
Wolf, lol.
What else is Moshiach about?!
That’s a different question.
Does anybody know the Rambam that I referred to above that discusses Moshiach’s sons? Perhaps a direct quote will clarify some of the confusion on this issue.
LB, that’s all true, but if it’s brought down that one of the qualifications of Moshiach is that he must have children (which I don’t know if it does), it probably means it literally.
In any case, the Lubavitcher Rebbe is not Moshiach for other reasons.
Moshiach was already born
Wolf: There’s a guy who everyone assumes is a nutball that claims to be his illegitimate son, iirc.
Guys how about you should learn inyunei!?? That will answer all your questions ืขืืดื is the best way to learn all about moshiach
I have direct quotes how do I show it in picture ?
Perez eleven in the ramanan I have it open In Front of me
I am not Chabad , never was chabad and never intended to be Chabad. However I think this bashing of the Rebbe is wrong. He is not the moshiach , but he was still a great leader and did many great things and knew how to speak to people and connect with them
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โstarts off with the words ืืืื ืืืฉืื ืขืชืื ืืขืืื ืืืืืืืจ ืืืืืช ืืื.(ืคืจืง ืืื ืขืฉืจ (ืืืื ืชืื
โstarts off with the words ืืืื ืืืฉืื ืขืชืื ืืขืืื ืืืืืืืจ ืืืืืช ืืื.The Rambam in his Pirush Hamishnayos, Introduction to Perek Chailek (10th or 11th chapter in Sanhedrin), says explicitly that Moshiach will have at least one son, who will become melech after he passes away. That son will have a son who will become melech after the son, so that Malchus HaMoshiach will last at least three generations.
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