November 12, 2015 4:13 pm at 4:13 pm #616650
I have read a way to help develop ahavas Hashem is too listensing a song about love of Hashem over and over. Any music recommendation for this. (Something like a nice ???? ????)November 12, 2015 5:14 pm at 5:14 pm #1113245
Where did you read that?November 12, 2015 5:25 pm at 5:25 pm #1113246
How about…. “Hashem is here / Hashem is there / Hashem is truly everywhere! Up, down, right left, all around / Here, there, and everywhere / That’s where he can be found!”November 12, 2015 6:50 pm at 6:50 pm #1113247
*That’s where He can be found!”November 12, 2015 7:21 pm at 7:21 pm #1113248
??? ?’ ?? ??? ????November 12, 2015 11:49 pm at 11:49 pm #1113249
Oy iz gut zu sein ah yideleeehNovember 18, 2015 4:22 am at 4:22 am #1113250
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Welcome back, sbeph!
While that may be helpful (as previously asked, where did
you read this?), it is certainly not a complete methodology.
If you’re interested in the subject, here are some mar’ei mekomos .
(Disclaimer: I am not using any of this in my own life at the moment.)
Rav Avigdor Miller suggested auto-suggestion –
saying “I love you, Hashem,” at least once a day.
The Chovos haLevavos has a section dedicated to this subject.
The Rambam talks about this in Hilchos Yesodei haTorah, chapter 2.
You can take a look at Mesilas Yeshorim, chapter 21 –
the part I’m referring to is close to the beginning.
The Medrash says on the first pasuk of the first paragraph of Shema
that we would not know how we are to love Hashem – we are then told
“V’hayu had’vorim ha’eileh, etc.”
The following is from Rav Aharon Feldman’s The River, the Kettle, and the
Bird, chapter 11, which is shorter than the subsequent instructive chapters.
(While this is not specifically about love of Hashem, the Mesilas Yeshorim
writes in chapter 18 that it too is in the general category of love.)
According to the Gra (Vilna Gaon), there are 4 basic causes of love.
1 – We love someone who gives us physical pleasure.
2 – We love someone who helps us accomplish our goals.
3 – We love someone in whom we recognize noble qualities of character.
4 – We love someone for no reason other than that we sense that they love us.
However, there are conditions which must be fulfilled for these to work.
A – We must be capable of gratitude (for 1 and 2).
B – We must have goals (for 2).
C – We must not be so occupied with ourselves that we
do not recognize the good qualities of others (for 3).
D – We must be able to believe that someone else loves us (for 4).
(See further inside.)November 18, 2015 5:45 am at 5:45 am #1113251
My question was more about the OP’s understanding of the approach. The baalei mussar have such a concept (hispaylus) but it has a bit more depth than simply singing a song over and over again – so I was curious where such a concept was sourced.
In any case, source for said Gra?November 18, 2015 7:18 am at 7:18 am #1113252
I find it hard to believe that one can come closer to Hashem by doing something that is in theory Assur.
Or, to say it better, I find it hard to believe that Chazal would Asser something that is supposed to bring us closer to Hashem.November 18, 2015 12:58 pm at 12:58 pm #1113253
“Source for said Gra??”
The Gra IS the source!!!November 18, 2015 1:41 pm at 1:41 pm #1113254
The Gra IS the source!!!
The Gra doesn’t say things without mekoros.
In any case, my question was where that Gra is located (I don’t have Rav Feldman’s book).November 18, 2015 1:43 pm at 1:43 pm #1113255
anything from dveikus , especially racheim bechasdecha, poseiach es yodecha, and ani maamin. abie rotenberg has a soul for hartzig music that brings you closer to hashem. when you listen to his songs , it’s more important to listen to the contemplative space between the notes. the spaces , like the white fire of the sefer torah , are the real song . the notes are just the medium in which the contemplative spaces find expressionNovember 18, 2015 2:19 pm at 2:19 pm #1113256
Comlink, yes, we got that, the Gaon is the source.
But I think what son may have wanted to ask you was–
For those of us not proficient in all the writings of the GRA, can you tell the mareh makom for what you’re quoting?November 18, 2015 4:44 pm at 4:44 pm #1113257
Golfer: that was American Yerushalmi’s answer, be patient for Comlink’s…November 18, 2015 4:58 pm at 4:58 pm #1113258
I see I posted my post after you already clarified your post.
Now we can both wait for Comlink to clarify his post.November 20, 2015 12:45 am at 12:45 am #1113259
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It’s footnoted at the end of the causes, so the
conditions are probably not from the Gaon, but
it’s from his commentary on Shir haShirim, 5:2.
(Rav Feldman notes that “there is a misprint in the text of the
commentary, as is evident from the Likkutim, ad loc., s.v. kad.”)November 21, 2015 5:01 pm at 5:01 pm #1113260
Thank you. 🙂
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