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    sbeph
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    I have read a way to help develop ahavas Hashem is too listensing a song about love of Hashem over and over. Any music recommendation for this. (Something like a nice ???? ????)

    #1113245

    son
    Member

    Where did you read that?

    #1113246

    Bookworm120
    Participant

    How about…. “Hashem is here / Hashem is there / Hashem is truly everywhere! Up, down, right left, all around / Here, there, and everywhere / That’s where he can be found!”

    #1113247

    Bookworm120
    Participant

    *That’s where He can be found!”

    #1113248

    technical21
    Participant

    ???? ????

    ??? ?’ ?? ??? ????

    #1113249

    pcoz
    Member

    Oy iz gut zu sein ah yideleeeh

    #1113250

    Welcome back, sbeph!

    While that may be helpful (as previously asked, where did

    you read this?), it is certainly not a complete methodology.

    If you’re interested in the subject, here are some mar’ei mekomos .

    (Disclaimer: I am not using any of this in my own life at the moment.)

    Rav Avigdor Miller suggested auto-suggestion –

    saying “I love you, Hashem,” at least once a day.

    The Chovos haLevavos has a section dedicated to this subject.

    The Rambam talks about this in Hilchos Yesodei haTorah, chapter 2.

    You can take a look at Mesilas Yeshorim, chapter 21 –

    the part I’m referring to is close to the beginning.

    The Medrash says on the first pasuk of the first paragraph of Shema

    that we would not know how we are to love Hashem – we are then told

    “V’hayu had’vorim ha’eileh, etc.”

    The following is from Rav Aharon Feldman’s The River, the Kettle, and the

    Bird, chapter 11, which is shorter than the subsequent instructive chapters.

    (While this is not specifically about love of Hashem, the Mesilas Yeshorim

    writes in chapter 18 that it too is in the general category of love.)

    According to the Gra (Vilna Gaon), there are 4 basic causes of love.

    1 – We love someone who gives us physical pleasure.

    2 – We love someone who helps us accomplish our goals.

    3 – We love someone in whom we recognize noble qualities of character.

    4 – We love someone for no reason other than that we sense that they love us.

    However, there are conditions which must be fulfilled for these to work.

    A – We must be capable of gratitude (for 1 and 2).

    B – We must have goals (for 2).

    C – We must not be so occupied with ourselves that we

    do not recognize the good qualities of others (for 3).

    D – We must be able to believe that someone else loves us (for 4).

    (See further inside.)

    #1113251

    son
    Member

    My question was more about the OP’s understanding of the approach. The baalei mussar have such a concept (hispaylus) but it has a bit more depth than simply singing a song over and over again – so I was curious where such a concept was sourced.

    In any case, source for said Gra?

    #1113252

    Sam2
    Participant

    I find it hard to believe that one can come closer to Hashem by doing something that is in theory Assur.

    Or, to say it better, I find it hard to believe that Chazal would Asser something that is supposed to bring us closer to Hashem.

    #1113253

    american_yerushalmi
    Participant

    “Source for said Gra??”

    The Gra IS the source!!!

    #1113254

    son
    Member

    The Gra IS the source!!!

    The Gra doesn’t say things without mekoros.

    In any case, my question was where that Gra is located (I don’t have Rav Feldman’s book).

    #1113255

    skripka
    Participant

    anything from dveikus , especially racheim bechasdecha, poseiach es yodecha, and ani maamin. abie rotenberg has a soul for hartzig music that brings you closer to hashem. when you listen to his songs , it’s more important to listen to the contemplative space between the notes. the spaces , like the white fire of the sefer torah , are the real song . the notes are just the medium in which the contemplative spaces find expression

    #1113256

    golfer
    Participant

    Comlink, yes, we got that, the Gaon is the source.

    But I think what son may have wanted to ask you was–

    For those of us not proficient in all the writings of the GRA, can you tell the mareh makom for what you’re quoting?

    #1113257

    Mammele
    Participant

    Golfer: that was American Yerushalmi’s answer, be patient for Comlink’s…

    #1113258

    golfer
    Participant

    Sorry, son.

    I see I posted my post after you already clarified your post.

    Now we can both wait for Comlink to clarify his post.

    #1113259

    It’s footnoted at the end of the causes, so the

    conditions are probably not from the Gaon, but

    it’s from his commentary on Shir haShirim, 5:2.

    (Rav Feldman notes that “there is a misprint in the text of the

    commentary, as is evident from the Likkutim, ad loc., s.v. kad.”)

    #1113260

    son
    Member

    Thank you. 🙂

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