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September 20, 2011 3:08 pm at 3:08 pm #599493shmoelMember
Please define.
September 20, 2011 3:33 pm at 3:33 pm #811490yungerman1ParticipantLoosely translated, this refers to doing something that is permitted, but not in good taste. For exmaple, if someone would be marry a woman to be allowed to live with her, and then divorce her, and then the next day marry a second woman and then divorce her, and again the third day etc…
September 20, 2011 3:59 pm at 3:59 pm #811491BaalHaboozeParticipantExcessive indulgence of (halachically) permitted pleasures
ex: indulging in (kosher) food/drink excessively
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spending hours in a (kosher) spa, etc.
September 20, 2011 5:13 pm at 5:13 pm #811492ToiParticipantplatonic relationships.
September 20, 2011 11:02 pm at 11:02 pm #811494shmoelMemberWhere is this concept mentioned?
September 20, 2011 11:43 pm at 11:43 pm #811495ItcheSrulikMemberRamban to the beginning of parshas kedoshim. Rambam beginning of hilchos deios. Both quote gemara.
September 21, 2011 12:51 am at 12:51 am #811496REALISTMemberToi:
Is that short for Toi-eh?
Platonic relationships are most certainly NOT birshus Hatorah!
September 21, 2011 3:37 pm at 3:37 pm #811497PeacemakerMemberWhat does the Gemorah, Rambam, and Ramban say about naval bereshus haTorah?
September 21, 2011 5:42 pm at 5:42 pm #811498ToiParticipantrealist- whatever do you mean?
September 21, 2011 6:03 pm at 6:03 pm #811499gavra_at_workParticipantrealist- whatever do you mean?
NBHT means that the Etzem thing is Muttar (as per Ramban in Kedoshim). Platonic relationships are B’etzem Assur, not “B’Rishus HaTorah”. I would have said the same, but Realist beat me to it, and gets credit for it.
Peacemaker: See Ramban in the beginning of Parshas Kedoshim.
From vbm-torah(dot)org
…the matter is that the Torah proscribed certain sexual practices and forbade certain foods, but it permitted relations with one’s wife and the consumption of meat and wine. Now the glutton may therefore find license to be lecherous with his wife or his many wives, inebriated with wine and gorged with meat. He might speak profanity without compunction since the Torah records no such prohibition, and in the process he would be considered a vile and dissolute person that is nevertheless acting within the boundaries of the Torah! Therefore this verse (of “Kedoshim tihiyu”) is mentioned after the Torah has detailed all of the activities that are to be curtailed entirely, for it presents us with a general and comprehensive command that we are to be separated from overindulgence…
September 21, 2011 8:32 pm at 8:32 pm #811500REALISTMemberThanx, Gavra.
A Gut Yohr 2 U & Urs. And 2 E/O in the CR community.
September 21, 2011 9:23 pm at 9:23 pm #811501therealmgamaMemberrealist, why u ask? s/o just called you that?! jk!
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