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    shmoel
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    Please define.

    #811490
    yungerman1
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    Loosely translated, this refers to doing something that is permitted, but not in good taste. For exmaple, if someone would be marry a woman to be allowed to live with her, and then divorce her, and then the next day marry a second woman and then divorce her, and again the third day etc…

    #811491
    BaalHabooze
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    Excessive indulgence of (halachically) permitted pleasures

    ex: indulging in (kosher) food/drink excessively

    or

    spending hours in a (kosher) spa, etc.

    #811492
    Toi
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    platonic relationships.

    #811494
    shmoel
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    Where is this concept mentioned?

    #811495
    ItcheSrulik
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    Ramban to the beginning of parshas kedoshim. Rambam beginning of hilchos deios. Both quote gemara.

    #811496
    REALIST
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    Toi:

    Is that short for Toi-eh?

    Platonic relationships are most certainly NOT birshus Hatorah!

    #811497
    Peacemaker
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    What does the Gemorah, Rambam, and Ramban say about naval bereshus haTorah?

    #811498
    Toi
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    realist- whatever do you mean?

    #811499
    gavra_at_work
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    realist- whatever do you mean?

    NBHT means that the Etzem thing is Muttar (as per Ramban in Kedoshim). Platonic relationships are B’etzem Assur, not “B’Rishus HaTorah”. I would have said the same, but Realist beat me to it, and gets credit for it.

    Peacemaker: See Ramban in the beginning of Parshas Kedoshim.

    From vbm-torah(dot)org

    …the matter is that the Torah proscribed certain sexual practices and forbade certain foods, but it permitted relations with one’s wife and the consumption of meat and wine. Now the glutton may therefore find license to be lecherous with his wife or his many wives, inebriated with wine and gorged with meat. He might speak profanity without compunction since the Torah records no such prohibition, and in the process he would be considered a vile and dissolute person that is nevertheless acting within the boundaries of the Torah! Therefore this verse (of “Kedoshim tihiyu”) is mentioned after the Torah has detailed all of the activities that are to be curtailed entirely, for it presents us with a general and comprehensive command that we are to be separated from overindulgence…

    #811500
    REALIST
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    Thanx, Gavra.

    A Gut Yohr 2 U & Urs. And 2 E/O in the CR community.

    #811501
    therealmgama
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    realist, why u ask? s/o just called you that?! jk!

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