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  • #1836076
    Pro schnapps
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    my friend took a narcissism test and she scored a 22. it said normal is between 12 and 15. celebrities usually score around 18. she got a 22. #sendhelp

    #1836087
    meir G
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    a few points;
    narcassists dont think they need help they just dont want YOU to think theyre narcassitic
    on a plane to a chasuna in chicago i noticed a velts pyschologist ( frum) and i asked him what treatment model can help a narcassist i suggested DBT, GESTALT… his answer was ” A STICK”
    like all personality disorders its gehenom in the old days we called people like this ” a shvere mentch”
    the challenge is that after nodding to your logical explanations ” THEY JUST DONT GET IT” and 30 min later its like you never discussed anything
    hopefully your friend is not this bad and the first step is understanding the concept of “reciprocity” that life is a 2 way street and to get you need to give .
    ps DBT can help – each of us need to look deep inside and root out even small bits of this bad midoh

    #1836088
    Reb Eliezer
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    The Bina Leitim says איזהו עשיר השמח בחלקו if we make others happy, we make ourselves happy and will feel rich.

    #1836167
    pro geshmake yidden
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    What’s dbt? A mussar Sefer?

    #1836186
    Reb Eliezer
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    What about the mirror image where you put yourself in the others place? How would you feel if this was done to you?

    #1836256
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    on a plane to a chasuna in chicago

    Sounds like an Abie Rotenberg song

    #1836280
    maskildoresh
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    Please remember that not every arrogant, difficult, and self-centered person is a narcissist.

    There’s a trend to jump to the label today. Especially if you or someone you love is involved in a difficult situation in marriage or another difficult interpersonal situation. There are a lot of difficult people who cause there pain who are not narcissistic, and don’t necessarily deserve to be labeled as such. Even if he or she is causing you pain!

    #1836710
    chash
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    ha. is she a good friend? then probably not narcissistic.
    btw, you shouldnt take random tests,[was it administered, or she found it somewhere, like a book or online?]
    I have tried, when i was younger to take online iq tests, i varied from over 147 to 93. um, i stuck with the 147.

    #1836775
    Toi
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    Meh, I just took the same test and got a 26. And I’m pretty amazing, so I don’t think you need to worry.

    #1837198
    pro geshmake yidden
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    I love that song about the Atheist convention in la

    #1839180
    flowers
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    maskildoresh:

    I’m wondering why you think the label “narcissist” is worse than being called an “arrogant, difficult, and self-centered person”?

    #1839222
    Speltchallah
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    It seems the label of narcissist is used as a way of saying there’s no way for this person to change.
    As Opposed to someone who is arrogant, difficult, and self-centered there is hope for them to see the error of their ways.

    #1839409
    Pros and Cons
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    Firstly assuming you’re friends with a yid, why are you saying lashon hara with no toeles?
    And if your friend is an akum, what does that say about you?

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