November 24, 2013 7:33 pm at 7:33 pm #611372mr.mustardParticipant
Anyone know when the new RCA (Rabbinical Council of America)siddur will be out?November 24, 2013 7:37 pm at 7:37 pm #988654popa_bar_abbaParticipant
You need another siddur?November 24, 2013 7:48 pm at 7:48 pm #988655WIYMember
I see no problem with the current siddur.November 24, 2013 7:48 pm at 7:48 pm #988656mr.mustardParticipant
If you don’t know then don’t reply.November 24, 2013 8:03 pm at 8:03 pm #988657HaLeiViParticipant
I don’t know.November 24, 2013 8:04 pm at 8:04 pm #988658Torah613TorahParticipant
From the website: The Rabbinical Council of America has mobilized many of the ?nest minds and eloquent writers from the rabbinate
and academia to produce a contemporary American Siddur. It faithfully projects the ever-expanding intellectual strength,
It’s apparently supposed to be more sensitive to women etc.November 24, 2013 8:42 pm at 8:42 pm #988659lab (Joseph)Member
Hmm, where have we heard that before? Ah, yes, Siddur Sim Shalom.November 24, 2013 9:53 pm at 9:53 pm #988660–Participant
If you don’t know then don’t reply.
When you become a moderator, you can determine who can reply.November 25, 2013 1:03 am at 1:03 am #988661HaMaivin YaavinMember
I’m with you on this.
I don’t get why popa_bar_abba and others ALWAYS respond, whether or not they have anything productive to say.
The confused Maiven Knows.November 25, 2013 1:58 am at 1:58 am #988662golferParticipant
Torah6, I’m confused.
I’m a woman.
I love using my siddur. I’ve been using the same one for years, as I usually daven at home. (Most women I know don’t attend minyanim b’tzibbur on a regular weekday.) But, my attachment to my siddur notwithstanding, I’m not sure how a siddur can be sensitive, or insensitive, to me. My siddur is in every way just about the same as all the siddurim printed in the nusach I daven; it has the same words in it as the one my husband uses.
How can a siddur be sensitive to me?
Care to explain?November 25, 2013 3:14 am at 3:14 am #988663mms601Participant
A siddur for woman would be great. Why do woman need to be forced to use a men’s one size-fits-all siddur? There should be a siddur for woman with no tzitzis, no talis, no tefilin, no karbanos (woman don’t donate towards the karbanos tzibur), no tachnun (certainly no v’hu rachum) leave out weekday laining, maariv, kiddush lavana, tikun chatzos, and the list goes on. Woman deserve their own lightweight siddur and tehilim, without all the woman-unfriendly pages. Think about how much more a woman would daven if her siddur was more portable. No more flipping thru pages while hanging on to the bus. Do you think the few minutes a day that a woman has to daven, it should be most efficient?November 25, 2013 3:23 am at 3:23 am #988664DaMosheParticipant
The items which are “sensitive” to women are not changes, but certain things which aren’t in most siddurim. For example, many Rabbonim hold that a woman should bench gomel when circumstances warrant it (others hold the husband does it for her). Is the text of the bracha and the response the same as for a man? No, it’s not. The new RCA siddur will have the text for a woman. When 3 woman eat a meal together without men, they are allowed to make a zimun. The siddur has the text with lashon nekava for it. It has extra tefillos which some say by hadlakas neiros.
Is there a problem with that?November 25, 2013 3:49 am at 3:49 am #988665zahavasdadParticipant
I dont know anything about this particular sidur, but here are things that could be differnt
The English translation,It might be meaningful to many if the english translation was more in contemporary english as opposed to formal english.
The Print, Due to the way your eyes read the siddur different size prints are needed for different prayers, not because one is more imprtant that another.
The little commentaries about the meanings of particular prayers like at the bottom of Art ScrollNovember 25, 2013 4:07 am at 4:07 am #988666SayIDidIt™Participant
mms601: And who decides what women say? I bet there are ladies out there who do say tachnun…
SiDi™November 25, 2013 5:27 am at 5:27 am #988667Smile E. FaceMember
mms601-Try looking for an Ohel Sarah siddur-it’s a siddur specially made for women. I don’t have one, so i’m not sure how it is different from a “regular” siddur, but i think it has ?????? that are special for women and gives directions. Artscroll makes it, you can check their catalog/website.
😀November 25, 2013 5:05 pm at 5:05 pm #988668apushatayidParticipant
Older than Ohel Sara is the Korban Mincha siddur (which artscroll acknowledges their siddur is based on). these siddurim include tefillos (eg: tefillos for her wedding day) and halachos (eg: kiddush and havdala)geared specifically women.
so, the RCA is putting one on the market. big deal. If they want it to sell, they will promote what makes theirs different than the many versions of the korban mincha siddur, artscrolls many versions of the ohel sara and the other siddurim made for women that are out there. the marketplace will determine its success or failure.November 25, 2013 5:09 pm at 5:09 pm #988669popa_bar_abbaParticipant
This makes no sense. If women really want to be just like men, they should not need their own siddur–they should use the men’s siddur!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!November 25, 2013 6:26 pm at 6:26 pm #988670SayIDidIt™Participant
popa, behave yourself!
Oh, I forgot, you don’t know how to . . . 🙂
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