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    mr.mustard
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    Anyone know when the new RCA (Rabbinical Council of America)siddur will be out?

    #988654
    popa_bar_abba
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    You need another siddur?

    #988655
    WIY
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    I see no problem with the current siddur.

    #988656
    mr.mustard
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    If you don’t know then don’t reply.

    #988657
    HaLeiVi
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    I don’t know.

    #988658
    Torah613Torah
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    From the website: The Rabbinical Council of America has mobilized many of the ?nest minds and eloquent writers from the rabbinate

    and academia to produce a contemporary American Siddur. It faithfully projects the ever-expanding intellectual strength,

    It’s apparently supposed to be more sensitive to women etc.

    #988659
    lab (Joseph)
    Member

    Hmm, where have we heard that before? Ah, yes, Siddur Sim Shalom.

    #988660
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    If you don’t know then don’t reply.

    When you become a moderator, you can determine who can reply.

    #988661

    Mr. Mustard,

    I’m with you on this.

    I don’t get why popa_bar_abba and others ALWAYS respond, whether or not they have anything productive to say.

    The confused Maiven Knows.

    #988662
    golfer
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    Torah6, I’m confused.

    I’m a woman.

    I love using my siddur. I’ve been using the same one for years, as I usually daven at home. (Most women I know don’t attend minyanim b’tzibbur on a regular weekday.) But, my attachment to my siddur notwithstanding, I’m not sure how a siddur can be sensitive, or insensitive, to me. My siddur is in every way just about the same as all the siddurim printed in the nusach I daven; it has the same words in it as the one my husband uses.

    How can a siddur be sensitive to me?

    Care to explain?

    #988663
    mms601
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    A siddur for woman would be great. Why do woman need to be forced to use a men’s one size-fits-all siddur? There should be a siddur for woman with no tzitzis, no talis, no tefilin, no karbanos (woman don’t donate towards the karbanos tzibur), no tachnun (certainly no v’hu rachum) leave out weekday laining, maariv, kiddush lavana, tikun chatzos, and the list goes on. Woman deserve their own lightweight siddur and tehilim, without all the woman-unfriendly pages. Think about how much more a woman would daven if her siddur was more portable. No more flipping thru pages while hanging on to the bus. Do you think the few minutes a day that a woman has to daven, it should be most efficient?

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    DaMoshe
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    The items which are “sensitive” to women are not changes, but certain things which aren’t in most siddurim. For example, many Rabbonim hold that a woman should bench gomel when circumstances warrant it (others hold the husband does it for her). Is the text of the bracha and the response the same as for a man? No, it’s not. The new RCA siddur will have the text for a woman. When 3 woman eat a meal together without men, they are allowed to make a zimun. The siddur has the text with lashon nekava for it. It has extra tefillos which some say by hadlakas neiros.

    Is there a problem with that?

    #988665
    zahavasdad
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    I dont know anything about this particular sidur, but here are things that could be differnt

    The English translation,It might be meaningful to many if the english translation was more in contemporary english as opposed to formal english.

    The Print, Due to the way your eyes read the siddur different size prints are needed for different prayers, not because one is more imprtant that another.

    The little commentaries about the meanings of particular prayers like at the bottom of Art Scroll

    #988666
    SayIDidIt™
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    mms601: And who decides what women say? I bet there are ladies out there who do say tachnun…

    SiDi™

    #988667

    mms601-Try looking for an Ohel Sarah siddur-it’s a siddur specially made for women. I don’t have one, so i’m not sure how it is different from a “regular” siddur, but i think it has ?????? that are special for women and gives directions. Artscroll makes it, you can check their catalog/website.

    😀

    #988668
    apushatayid
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    Older than Ohel Sara is the Korban Mincha siddur (which artscroll acknowledges their siddur is based on). these siddurim include tefillos (eg: tefillos for her wedding day) and halachos (eg: kiddush and havdala)geared specifically women.

    so, the RCA is putting one on the market. big deal. If they want it to sell, they will promote what makes theirs different than the many versions of the korban mincha siddur, artscrolls many versions of the ohel sara and the other siddurim made for women that are out there. the marketplace will determine its success or failure.

    #988669
    popa_bar_abba
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    This makes no sense. If women really want to be just like men, they should not need their own siddur–they should use the men’s siddur!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    #988670
    SayIDidIt™
    Participant

    popa, behave yourself!

    Oh, I forgot, you don’t know how to . . . 🙂

    SiDi™

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