November 29, 2011 5:46 pm at 5:46 pm #600890Ken ZaynMember
I’m sure I remember a thread on Niflaos Haboreh from a long time ago but could not find it.
It amazed to see in a medical first-aid book that there are two cures for someone stung by sea annenome and jelly fish. One is vinegar and the other… sea water! This truly is a nifla that Hashem has made as a cure something that would by definition be in abundance near where these creatures live. It’s like dock leaves stop stinging of nettles and always grow near them!
(Those who enjoy niflaos ha-nature, check out feivels wonders hereNovember 29, 2011 6:30 pm at 6:30 pm #831038TheGoqParticipant
One who gets bitten and doesn’t have vinegar should urinate on the would it helps the pain.November 29, 2011 7:11 pm at 7:11 pm #831039aries2756Participant
Goq, I have heard this and also heard that it is NOT true. I am on the fence about this. People say to do this because of the amonia property in urine, but I was told it is not true and one shouldn’t do it.November 29, 2011 8:00 pm at 8:00 pm #831040TheGoqParticipant
Aries it couldn’t hurt!November 30, 2011 12:40 am at 12:40 am #831041HaLeiViParticipant
Ammonia is not an acid.
I read about a particular jellyfish that vinigar worsens the bite and it is very poisonous. I forgot what it was called.
Thanks Ken, I remembered about that thread from a long time ago. I couldn’t remember what it was called. I don’t know if people realize but Feivel was even more popular than 80!November 30, 2011 2:25 am at 2:25 am #831042
Could be it’s not true, however there lots of other things that demonstrate nefloas haborah. Especially in medical books.
As a pre hospital medical provider I cannot recall such a thing.November 30, 2011 2:41 am at 2:41 am #831043
i’ve always appreciated nature and biology and the miracle of how the body functins but nursing school has raised that appreciation so many times over, mostly because i have learned to value health and well being. and just as a side note, the fact that B”H so many woman have healthy and whole children is such a nais, to me its a open miracle. (i’m at the end of my OB-peds rotation. unfortunately there was a lot to learn). 2cents, i totally agree with you about the med (my case nursing) booksNovember 30, 2011 3:06 am at 3:06 am #831044
Just one thing, most medical books especially those that focus on biology or anatomy and physiology. Make sure to sprinkle some atheism that’s how they answer some of the why questions.
You are right, there is a lot of nefloas habore to learn in the medical world although I am less advanced (medic) but I learned a lot.November 30, 2011 3:12 am at 3:12 am #831045
2cents, you EMT-B or EMT-P? i saw the emt book (its called the orange book or something?) and there is lots of A&P/patho just in there.
and IMHO the only dif bet EMT-P and RN is one makes and admins orders of limited drugs, the other can admin almost limitless drugs but can’t order. that and the fact one works in a metal box 🙂November 30, 2011 4:32 am at 4:32 am #831046yitayningwutParticipant
Lol. Aries is right, this “cure” was made famous by a certain friendly TV show but it is a complete myth. Google it.November 30, 2011 6:01 am at 6:01 am #831047🍫Syag LchochmaParticipant
When my anatomy/physiology teacher would teach us about certain parts of the body or systems she would add “which is probably why Gd put it there”. I thought it was so cool to hear from a secular person. Also, I am RH- (try using THAT info to spot me in a crowd) so I have told my children that some of them are miracle babies because 75 years ago, before Rhogam shots, they would never have been born!November 30, 2011 10:50 am at 10:50 am #831048
As of now I am an EMT studying paramedic.
Medics have to act on their own not follow orders. (not referring to medical control only to the actual scene and treatment plan).November 30, 2011 5:57 pm at 5:57 pm #831049
hatzlacha 2cents! don’t you need a crazy pharm course b/c of all the meds paramedics give? that’s a whole lots of independence. much luck to you.November 30, 2011 10:10 pm at 10:10 pm #831050
yes, However I can just imagine what Doctors go through.
But there is a lot of practice. a big portion of training is onsite training, hospital and ambulance shifts.November 30, 2011 11:55 pm at 11:55 pm #831051twistedParticipant
1)I did tissue typing before t-cell donation to a sibling who rln succumbed to a machala. I saw the 4 pages of inscrutable notations, endless combinations of letters and numbers, upper case lower case, it hit me how complex our blood is.
2) The specificity of symbiotic and parasitic relationships
3) Geometric patterns in fruits.December 1, 2011 12:43 am at 12:43 am #831052Ken ZaynMember
For those doubters of the vinegar and sea water cure, I saw it under Injuries by Marine Creatures in the world renown Dorling Kindersley first aid manual which is the Authorised Manual of the British Red Cross, Saint John’s Ambulance and the Saint Andrews Ambulance Association. See their website. So thats good enough for me. Or go to the sea, stand on a jelly fish and see if sea water works.December 1, 2011 12:57 am at 12:57 am #831053
2scents,if you learn inhibitors and inducers, i wish you LOTS of siyata dishmaya remembering them.
but what do you learn in the hospital? IIRC you do PRE hospital medicine.
syag, my OB prof told us her mom is Rh negative yet had a number of HEALTHY rh + babies-including her. and this was without RHOgam. go figureDecember 1, 2011 1:32 am at 1:32 am #831054🍫Syag LchochmaParticipant
wow – they really are miracle babies!
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