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Hello, a good friend of mine is unfortunately suffering from a debilitating disease that is very difficult to overcome. His life is dangling by a small thread but friends and family continue to pray and recite tehillim so that he could recover. I was thinking that perhaps if I got people to accept upon themselves to not take out their cellphones during shul it would be a tremendous zechus for my friends refuah. The cell phone problem is so pervasive in today’s technology filled world that I feel like its an appropriate thing to ask for people to simply not take it out during davening. If you are unable to handle 3 minyanim, then you can do 2 or even 1. Any improvement on your behalf would be a tremendous contribution. My goal is to get around 100 people. Anything more would be unbelievable. Thank you everyone and please write how many minyanim you plan on accepting per day.
Only 2 people can have a cell phone in Shul or/& at the Kossel:-
1) Someone whose wife is in 9th month [such an individual could probably even have it on Shabbos, if he has some contraption to make it part of a belt, as I did in my day & age, with my Rosh Yeshiva’s Blessings].
2) Hatzolo member [or paramedic]
Everyone Else’s MUST be on vibration, or turned off, NO EXCEPTIONS!!
To think that we are praying for our lives & a Pisko Tovo on Hoshana Rabbo & a cell phone goes off, is too reprehensible even for words.
To think that we are sitting on the floor reciting Kinos on our Beloved Beis haMikdosh, and a cell phone goes, is too reprehensible for words.
To think that someone is Chas veSholom burying a relative at the cemetery, and a cell phone goes off, is simply too reprehensible for words & feelings.
Umm… I think you mean contraption.
Moderator – rather than post this, you can fix 147’s typo.
147: You forgot a third: The Rav who might need to answer a Shaila immediately.
147,
After you finish deciding what should or should not be halacha and what is correct, perhaps you can explain who buries a person in a shul. Is that one of your new halachos?
The title of the thread was about phones in shul, your own rant was about who can have a phone in shul, according to you and then you say how terrible it is to have a phone in shul because it rings when they are in the middle of burying someone. So I ask you, who buries someone in shul?
nishtdayngesheft:- My thread said, burying someone at a cemetery:- made no mention of burying someone at a Shul. Our Rabbi won’t allow anyone to be buried in the crypt of our Shul, because he wants our Shul to be accessible to Kohanim for Birkas Kohanim, so that our congregants can be showered with Bendictions.
By the way, Gemoros have a way of going off at much bigger tangents than my thread did. The thread effectively was about disturbances caused by cellphones, and did not deviate 1 iota from this serious problem in the Jewish community.
I sat shiva several months ago and i have to say it was very annoying to see people pick up their phones constantly to check messages or whatever, i mean really its a shiva call leave the #$%@ing phone in the car a little sensitivity please. The message your transmitting is i dont really want to be here its a chore so im just gonna sit here and fidget and look at my phone every 2 minutes if you cant bring the proper amount of gravitas that the occasion requires then dont bother coming at all.
To The Goq,
First of all–sorry for your recent loss.
When I was sitting shiva, there were people who left their ringers on and with the amount of fancy ringtones playing every time someone’s phone rang, I was beginning to feel I was at a party, not at a shiva house, and mind you I was one of the aveilim.
Personally, I think some of the posts here on YW, are laughable. Everyone agrees that in shul one should turn their cellphone off or on vibrate in order not to disturb someone’s davening.
In the olden days, it was talking in shuls- now, the problem has become cellphones- which I notice some people still talk in shul on their phones, during davening.
It’s unbelievable. They don’t even go out. Well, if one can talk to their neighbor next to them quietly- why not on their cellphone quietly… hmmmm… And that he was just mentioning about someone being at a levaya and their cellphone ringing is just another example of where you should put phone to silent…
Shul, levayas, chupahs, a bris, a pidyon haben ceremony or a shiur where someone’s taking the time and trouble to have prepared to present divrei Torah–it’s not just enough to put the phone on vibrate. It’s disruptive to see people responding and talking when the protocol is to be silent and attentive to the davening or the hespedim and kavod hames or the chuppah, or ceremony or shiur. And let’s not forget about all the texting.
Whatever happened to people just shutting off their phones when entering a venue where talking and texting is inappropriate and out-of-place.
No one has to be available all hours of 24/6 and if someone has such a pressing emergency that needs their full, immediate attention, chances are they wouldn’t be attending most of these functions anyway.
Adam88…….
No one has actually posted something following on the lines what you were saying ;(
I agree with you
But random question, whats with your screen/code name?
Adam–hope in the zechus of your trying to get people to shut their cell phones off during davening that your friend has a refuah shleimah b’karov.
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