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    neenee
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    I heard that a well-known yeshiva does not hire divorced teachers, what do think about this?

    #943144
    popa_bar_abba
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    I highly doubt this is a policy. More likely, a divorcee was not hired for other reasons, and decided this was the reason.

    #943145
    neenee
    Member

    dream on or should I say…wake up.

    #943146
    Torah613Torah
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    Not true. In fact I know at least one case where divorcees are preferred for certain positions.

    #943147
    Rooskie
    Member

    Perhaps you are referring to a girls school not hiring divorced men.

    #943148
    neenee
    Member

    what positions are better for divorcee’s? and what is wrong with a girls school hiring a divorced man?

    #943149
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    Even if this is true, we would need to hear the school’s side (and I doubt it’s true).

    #943150
    mewho
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    i think the marital status of the person is not as important as the persons menchlechkite. married, single , divorced…being a mench comes first.

    #943151
    Torah613Torah
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    Divorced women are generally excellent employees who can spend more time with students then others.

    Single men are not hired in girl’s schools in general, for obvious reasons.

    #943152

    T613T, Divorced women are not generally any kind of employee. Like the rest of the population, some are better employees, and some are worse.

    I could rather easily imagine that a lot of the externalities of getting divorced in a homogeneous, close knit community could result in finding it harder to get a job, but it doesn’t mean that something nefarious is afoot.

    #943153
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    Divorced women are generally excellent employees who can spend more time with students then others.

    I would sooner hear that argument made for childless employees than divorced ones.

    #943154
    yitzchokm
    Participant

    fe. fi. fo. fum.

    I smell TROLL!!

    neenee,

    strike two

    #943155
    Torah613Torah
    Participant

    I would like to take back my earlier comment. It was thoughtless and I should not have written it.

    #943156
    WolfishMusings
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    I heard that a well-known yeshiva does not hire divorced teachers, what do think about this?

    I think a school should only hire teachers who have been married for an even number of months. Then, as the next month approaches (by which they’ll have been married for an odd number of months), the teacher should be told to come back in a month.

    Teaches who are divorced should only be hired if they have been divorced for an odd number of months. This way, the married teachers and the divorced teachers won’t come into contact with each other.

    The Wolf

    #943157
    neenee
    Member

    to yitzchokim: what do you mean?

    #943158
    neenee
    Member

    what’s a troll? I think that any divorcee should be able to get the job that they are qualified for. I am pained when our world becomes so selfish and cruel. And does that mean that if a Rebee gets divorced he should be fired from working in a girls school? C’mon.

    #943159
    yitzchokm
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    neenee:

    a troll, in this sense is a poster who imagines scenarios, posts them as true, in order to get others riled up for no reason.

    #943160
    Rooskie
    Member

    I’ve heard a case of a rebbe in a beis yaakov getting dismissed after his divorce. It is a fair concern by the school and I don’t think you can blame them.

    #943161
    yitzchokm
    Participant

    If a Rebbe of a boys school gets divorced, then, no, he shouldn’t be able to teach.

    Definitely girls.

    #943162
    neenee
    Member

    fair concern?

    #943163
    Rooskie
    Member

    Single men (whether never married or divorced) tend to be on the “lookout” for a marital partner. A girls school is an inappropriate lookout.

    #943164
    yehudayona
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    Rooskie, who are the single men on the lookout for, students or teachers? If the former, I would hope that the age difference between a thirty-plus divorced man and student who is 18 or younger would trigger the “ick factor.” If the latter, why single out girls’ schools? There are female teachers in most boys’ elementary schools.

    #943165
    rebdoniel
    Member

    There may be legal protections for a divorcee getting fired due to that. Not that I think having men teaching single girls in their late teens is a good idea, anyways.

    #943166
    sw33t
    Member

    I understand not having opposite gender non married teachers. (divorced man teaching girls, divorced woman teaching boys)

    What’s the problem with a divorced man teaching boys/ divorced woman teaching girls?

    #943167
    🐵 ⌨ Gamanit
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    sw33t- it’s not a problem at all. More than half the teachers in my elementary school were divorcees. They stayed for many years, as they didn’t need the same salary a woman with five children needs. Teaching is not a very well paying job.

    #943168
    rebdoniel
    Member

    A divorced man and a married man are both capable of the same things. It is equally immoral for any kind of teacher to do something “Es past nisht” with a talmidah.

    I don’t see the nafka mina between a married or divorced rebbe.

    #943169
    farrockgrandma
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    I imagine there are some administrators that feel that a divorcee is a greater temptation to her male associates. I imagine that their imaginations are way out of control.

    #943170
    squeak
    Participant

    “I don’t see the nafka mina between a married or divorced rebbe.”

    Well that just means you need a hint. Bread. Basket.

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