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I made the mistake of sending Frogette on a two week vacation.. Little me is in charge of big boss (one year old) and her siblings.. Oy!!! And it’s only day 5…
H E L P!!!
(how much sugar do you put into the white load?) (why can’t you have cornflakes for supper)
You *can* have cornflakes for supper.
Ummm . . . there’s no reason why you can’t serve cornflakes for supper.
Add sugar to taste, but make sure the laundry doesn’t overcook. Cornflakes are a breakfast cereal.
Hey, takahmamash is starting to agree with me.
Winning one convert at a time.
Joseph, you made me laugh. Shkoyach!
squeak, you heard that? You’re not the only one!
When I was in yeshiva I survived on cornflakes for three and a half years for all meals.
cornflakes for breakfast, flaky corn for supper– nu give them a some baby corn, popcorn, corn on the cob, cornstarch
theres plenty to make with corn
or corn flake crumb coated shnitzel or chicken!
From the looks of it, Frogette really needed that vacation. So it wasn’t a mistake to send her. Now that you have an inkling of what she deals with, you’ll hopefully send her every so often to recharge.
PS. How are you enjoying the laundry?? meals maila, you can get away with cornflakes.
You can def have cornflakes for supper, if you use tyhem to coat your chicken cutlets or flounder… (We have been known to have a cereal night or 100, over the last thirty-five years).
how’s the other new addition doing, the one you had ‘taken in’?
I’ve had to have cereal quite a few times for supper over the years. Poverty dinners, for the win.
Corn Flakes with milk, sugar, banana
Potatoes, eggs, and onions with ketchup and toast
French toast
PB and J on matzah (during the year, of course)
Cream cheese and jelly sandwiches
Tradition cup a noodles
Bean soup with fried plantains and rice
LF: You have my sympathies. Just want to point out that at this point in time many of our yiddishe mammas are required to work. And your two weeks of juggling is what their regular life looks like. This is the reason I don’t think it is fair for men to place the responsibility of parnossah on their wives. Raising a family is a full time job and bringing parnossah is another full time job. Hashem created a family with a father and a mother for a reason.
To all the men who want to weigh in, first send your wife on a two week vacation. Then we’ll talk.
The Queen,
And your two weeks of juggling is what their regular life looks like.
I think there is truth to this. Taking on your spouse’s role for a while is a good way to appreciate what they do; however, a lot of the “juggling” is likely due to lack of experience and routine.
This is the reason I don’t think it is fair for men to place the responsibility of parnossah on their wives. Raising a family is a full time job and bringing parnossah is another full time job. Hashem created a family with a father and a mother for a reason.
And I don’t think it’s fair to make blanket judgements of how other families conduct their affairs. Parents are big boys and girls, and they can make their own decisions and work things out together so everyone is able to thrive. If they cannot, then they have problems that are independent of the lifestyle they are choosing to lead.
To all the men who want to weigh in, first send your wife on a two week vacation. Then we’ll talk.
What if she doesn’t want to go?
” a lot of the “juggling” is likely due to lack of experience and routine.”
Or simply a lack of hours in the day to accomplish everything.
“Parents are big boys and girls, and they can make their own decisions and work things out together so everyone is able to thrive.”
Unless of course the shidduch was made on the premise that the wife will work. Many girls pressured by the shidduch crisis, and having no idea what they are getting themselves into, agree at the shidduch to shoulder the ol parnossah.
I know a woman of a large family who juggles two jobs, and has no option to discontinue, because at her shidduch she agreed to support her husband.
Disclaimer: Women can have jobs of course. Part time I would hope while they are raising their children. (so the children actually get to spend time with mommy) and sometimes it is necessary to cover the bills even with the husband bringing in a paycheck. The question is who is shouldering the burden and who is helping out as necessary.
PB and J on matzah (during the year, of course)
I eat this year-round, Pesach included.
“a man has to be out at least thrice daily… every day.”
That is why women are not mechuyav to daven with minyan thrice daily, and why Tattys weren’t meant to be Mommies. (or mommies, tatties.
MD: “What if she doesn’t want to go?”
A husband offers to stay home with the family so his wife can take a vacation and the wife doesn’t want to go? Unless, the wife has a valid reason why she can’t go, my first assumption would be that she doesn’t trust her husband to take over.
The Queen,
I know a woman of a large family who juggles two jobs, and has no option to discontinue, because at her shidduch she agreed to support her husband.
This does not contradict what I said in the slightest. If she’s happy to make that sacrifice, then who are we to judge, even if we’d hate to be in her shoes. If she’s unhappy, then they have problems, not because of kollel, but because of her sense of “no option to discontinue.”
The Queen,
Unless, the wife has a valid reason why she can’t go, my first assumption would be that she doesn’t trust her husband to take over.
It seems perhaps we have a misandrist viewpoint to balance out the mysogynist ones here.
“It seems perhaps we have a misandrist viewpoint to balance out the mysogynist ones here.”
Sorry you are have it wrong. Just for the record, I am going on vacation iy”H and my husband is staying home with the family.
The Queen,
Sorry you are have it wrong.
I hope I do, and I apologize for overreacting. What I was responding to was:
1. Using Little Froggie’s (who works and opened this thread to praise his wife) thread to criticize the kollel lifestyle as objectively wrong.
2. A perceived implication in your responses that men do not pitch in with housework and childcare, particularly kollel men.
3. A perceived implication that women are duped into servitude via the shidduch process, and that their husbands don’t care about their suffering later on.
Am I off base?
Just for the record, I am going on vacation iy”H and my husband is staying home with the family.
That’s great! For the record as well, I work and my wife stays home full time, I am very involved in parenting and housework, and I enthusiastically agree with Little Froggie’s sentiments in this thread. And neither my wife nor I want to take a 2-week vacation solo, and it has nothing to do with lack of trust.
MD: Apology excepted. I agree you overreacted. I am surrounded by men folk that I love and yes found it very objectionable to be called a ‘misandrist’.(which I had to google as I never heard of this zach.)
1. I don’t object to the kollel lifestyle. My husband learned in kollel for the first 5 years of our marriage and I was very proud of him. I have currently 2 sons in law in kollel.
2. That was only the implication if wife doesn’t want a vacation when offered. Vacations don’t necessarily have to be for 2 weeks. What about a 2-3 day getaway to the beach with a friend. Many men don’t go to the beach because of ????? ?????.
3. This one is true sometimes. Unfortunately, I know real life examples.
For the record My husband and I already had our silver wedding anniversary (The night we married off a child) and never spent 2 weeks away from each other.
Queen -“I have currently 2 sons in law in kollel.”
Do you want more? I’m available, if you have single daughters.
You’re available?? Just like that? Maybe she’s a one eyed one horned flying lokshen kugel eater.
I like this thread. Good for you taking over, Mr Froggie.
Queen -“You’re available?? Just like that? Maybe she’s a one eyed one horned flying lokshen kugel eater.”
Don’t worry! I’m in the medical field, we can cure anything.
😉
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