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July 13, 2022 1:26 am at 1:26 am #2105643
Was the recent useless psa a warning?July 13, 2022 2:01 am at 2:01 am #2105649.Participant
NoJuly 13, 2022 2:01 am at 2:01 am #2105648.Participant
I heard on before sundown night they play the nuke sirensJuly 14, 2022 8:30 am at 8:30 am #2106050akupermaParticipant
It may not be so dumb for several reasons.
The situation in Europe is deteriorating, and Russia is threatening to go nuclear.
Events in Ukraine suggest the Russians may have trouble hitting the side of a barn, so a nuclear attack on New York City might not result in instant death and destruction (e.g. they’ll miss and hit the Catskills or Suffolk County by mistake), so the attack will be survivable.July 14, 2022 12:31 pm at 12:31 pm #2106132
Right akuperma, im sure Russia isnt capable of hitting any target, and im sure they only have 1 nuke. But hey, Get inside, Stay inside, and Stay tuned.July 14, 2022 2:13 pm at 2:13 pm #2106175YoshevBerParticipant
The PSA was not a warning.
During the Cold War, Russia threatened countless times to conduct a nuclear attack on America, it never happened nor did it come close to happening. Those threats went on for 45+ years.
The crisis in Ukraine is not remotely Nuclear, nor will result in a nuclear attack, due to the west having utterly no direct military involvement, but let’s say, to play devils advocate that Russia does decide to conduct a full scale nuclear strike on the USA, what would that look like?
If Russia were to conduct a full scale nuclear offensive, the civilian casualties would come from states like, Montana, Nevada, California, and Utah, this is due to the vast majority of American military installations and nuclear arsenal are housed in these states. Russia’s goal would be destroy all this so they could be the final victor of this supposed nuclear war. In the 1960s, when nuclear strategy was first being drafted up, the plan was to destroy the major civilian epicenters- why? Because civilian epicenters had factories, ports and industries. In todays day with all the exporting, there are no factories or industries in NYC, and our major industrial ports are in nearby NJ. On top of all that, NYC possesses no major military installations or nuclear storage or arsenals.
Countries like Russia don’t want to waste their weapons on measly body counts. They want to win, and to do that, they must destroy what threatens them most.
Scholars on this subject have been saying this for years and the media continually ignores them, because a headline that says “RUSSIA IS NO THREAT TO NYC” doesn’t make money, “RUSSIA CAN DESTROY ENTIRE NYC POPULATION” does make money.
Even if Russia would target NYC, it’s important to remember that the United States has a vast and comprehensive Nuclear Defense Strategy that includes interception missiles and early warning networks that would effectively defend a mass populated city like NYC or Los Angeles.
What we saw from the department of early management was a goof, where some state level employee decided to that updating a nuclear safety video was not just important but necessary, and this descision was for sure made without any consultation with actual defense scholars or military analysts, who made their point clear that there will be no nuclear any time soon. The fact is, that the federal level has done nothing, and the federal level is the only one that matters here, because they are better informed and don’t just create random PSA based on how they’re feeling.
Listen to the real sources, don’t get your news from CNN or FOX, go to the websites of the Department of Defense or the Office of Emergency management (Federal) or the Institute for the Study of War.
editedJuly 14, 2022 2:54 pm at 2:54 pm #2106186
YoshevBer-“On top of all that, NYC possesses no major military installations or nuclear storage or arsenals.
Countries like Russia don’t want to waste their weapons on measly body counts. They want to win, and to do that, they must destroy what threatens them most.”
-Body count probably is a factor, secondly aside for that, completely destroying big cities like NYC would be of great significance and greatly damage a country from ever recovering. If big cities werent important then threats to NYC and London wouldnt exist, im sure England doesnt hide their nukes under the London streets.
“Even if Russia would target NYC, it’s important to remember that the United States has a vast and comprehensive Nuclear Defense Strategy that includes interception missiles and early warning networks that would effectively defend a mass populated city like NYC or Los Angeles.”
-Not sure if you are aware but Russia has weapons such as Hypersonic missiles and others which the U.S has no match or defense for. Also trying to take down a barrage of nukes from Russia and who knows what other countries(China, Iran, North Korea etc.) at the same time would prove pretty challenging and have similar consequences.July 15, 2022 9:40 am at 9:40 am #2106310CuriosityParticipant
Not useless considering Biden is basically about to hand Iran nukes on a silver platter.July 15, 2022 11:19 am at 11:19 am #2106348
Well useless in terms of it’s the same outcome as just trying to ignore the bomb as it hits hoping it won’t bother you.July 15, 2022 3:03 pm at 3:03 pm #2106374akupermaParticipant
1. The Russians may not be bluffing (also, Putin has painted himself into a corner and might be desperate).
2. One has no idea what the Russian targets will be of if they can hit targets at all (so even if they aim at New York, it might not be a total “wipe out” that a well aimed H-Bomb would cause). Based on what is happening in the Ukraine, Russian weapons may underperform, and western counter-weapons may exceed expectations.
3. The biggest problem if one survives an attack will be getting food, since New York City is totally dependent on supplies coming from elsewhere
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