Nuhr fahr de nooshim,gei avek

Oh, and Adam Never listen to your wife

AYC,

I’m not so sure about that we see it was his fault, yet Hashem said Lo Tov Lihiyos Adam Livado so Hashem probably would’ve given him another wife.

Eclipse,

Thank women’s lib for that

Hmmm, they seem like they started around the same time.

The women were like “Honey I want to do something with my life, I want to feel important and support a family” and the guy was like “Be my guest sweetheart, wake me up when you want to quit” and that’s how it all started (jk)

in case ur wondering (jk) means just kidding

I don’t speak Yiddish, so I read this thread…

i speak yiddish but had a hard time reading this thread! Chava who asked you to share your pains with us?

Btw-I LOVE the name of this thread!!!!

eclipse – actually, i never undersood why do most women now have the added curse of b’zaas apecha – even if it is done willingly. we don’t see men have the additional curse of pregnancy and labor. i know that many women choose to work for various reasons, but at the end of the day, it was a curse!!!!

i’m not asking why individual women work – it’s more of a philosophical question – i just don’t get it.

(by the way, i strongly feel that if a woman chooses to work in order to support her husband, husband should be extremely grateful, and when woman feels that it is too much, husband should help out with parnassah or take over the responsibility. how to fit all this in with learning, need for something to live on, etc. etc. – i don’t know. i find this whole issue a very complicated issue.