January 20, 2022 1:53 pm at 1:53 pm #2052830
What has the Senate done lately?January 20, 2022 3:15 pm at 3:15 pm #2052893commonsaychelParticipant
They blocked three awful pieces of legislation and that is more than enough for me .
EditedJanuary 20, 2022 3:15 pm at 3:15 pm #2052894
Are you referring to senate republicans? They’ve successfully halted Biden’s radical agenda.January 20, 2022 3:17 pm at 3:17 pm #2052899☕️coffee addictParticipant
Thanks to manchin they have stopped socialism from rearing it’s ugly headJanuary 20, 2022 6:43 pm at 6:43 pm #2052965akupermaParticipant
The Senate has done the job they were intended to do. To block stupid and unconstitutional and anti-democratic (small “d”) legislation. Unless unlimited postal voting were combined with voter ID (e.g. you have to mail the ballot in a post office and have your ID verified), the Biden proposal would for all purposed prevent fair elections in the future. The Republicans have save American democracy.January 20, 2022 8:30 pm at 8:30 pm #2052970
Where is the socialism, the right to vote? I believe the Torah advocates socialism. Supply side, voodoo economics does not help the economy by giving an incentive to produce and hiring people when there is no demand.January 20, 2022 8:31 pm at 8:31 pm #2052971
Trumps former AG, William Barr admitted that there was no voter fraud enough to change the election and the states are curtailing the ability to vote, so the Fed government had to jump in to stop it.January 20, 2022 8:31 pm at 8:31 pm #2052972jackkParticipant
” Unless unlimited postal voting were combined with voter ID (e.g. you have to mail the ballot in a post office and have your ID verified), the Biden proposal would for all purposed prevent fair elections in the future. ”
I don’t see anywhere that the Biden bill forces states to allow postal voting without ensuring that the Voter’s ID be verified.
They prevented the will of a majority of Americans. That is not democracy.
What does voting rights have to do with socialism?
Republicans do not stand for anything positive. A bunch of losers who worship at the altar of Trump.
They stand for is restricting healthcare, restricting voting and ensuring that the rich do not pay taxes.January 20, 2022 8:32 pm at 8:32 pm #2052974Abba_SParticipant
Now Biden is claiming the 2022 midterm election which haven’t even taken place are illegitimate. Getting to sound a lot like Trump. The Democrat’s problem with Sinema & Manchim is that if they anger either one of them they can switch parties and change which party runs the Senate. Both of them are from states which Republican voters out number Democtrats so if they run a primary opponent the only thing that will happen is the Republican candidate will win.January 20, 2022 9:56 pm at 9:56 pm #2053024CuriosityParticipant
Republicans are not good, but Democrats are pure evil. American politics is a big fat distraction. Israeli politics is important but just depressing – Why I don’t read YWN much anymore.January 21, 2022 12:08 am at 12:08 am #2053044
RebE > What has the Senate done lately?
RebE, did you read Federalist 62 or 63 lately? [sorry for answering question with a question]January 21, 2022 12:36 am at 12:36 am #2053069
jackk > They prevented the will of a majority of Americans. That is not democracy.
jackk, I don’t know how old you are or where you were born, but you need to level with the fact that you live in a republic, not a democracy. Pure democracy was considered a failure for most of human history, and I don’t think it was a Jewish thing also. 20th century “people’s democracies” just proved the point, that on an island with 9 poor people and one rich one, the nine will take everything from the rich and execute him even if they are losing the minyan.January 21, 2022 9:36 am at 9:36 am #2053106
AAQ, I get it. The purpose of the Senate is to get paid, don’t do anything and sometimes not even debate an issue because of a convenient filibuster.January 21, 2022 9:37 am at 9:37 am #2053121☕️coffee addictParticipant
Manchin stopped build socialism betterJanuary 21, 2022 10:18 am at 10:18 am #2053140jackkParticipant
The difference between what a republic and democracy are, doesn’t give a free pass to the obstruction by the republicans in the Senate from getting laws that keep the most basic right in America of free voting passed.
In the end, the elected representatives should be responsible to the voters who elected them.
Not to the PAC’s, Donors, and Corporations that fund them. Republicans and Democrats should vote based on what is good for the country.
Democrats are pure evil ? Right.
As I posted in a different thread – please give back all the money from the $1.9 trillion COVID relief package and do not drive on the roads and bridges modernized from the $1.2 trillion infrastructure law.
Republicans have so little in terms of accomplishments, they want to take credit on these 2 bills that they voted against.
Biden’s bill is a direct result of the Republican states making new laws that restrict voting and that will make it easier next time when Trump calls to send Republican Electoral College delegates although the Democrats had more votes.
While you are at the Texas border, you can salute the ineffective border wall that Americans paid for without a peso from Mexico.January 21, 2022 1:15 pm at 1:15 pm #2053259
Jackk, in regards to voting rights bill, besides for clearly being unconstitutional, the idea that it would “save democracy from republican voter laws” is absolute unmitigated garbage. Bidens democrat home state of Delaware is one of, if not the most difficult state to vote in. The general idea that requiring Id to vote somehow goes out the window when requiring it to eat in a restaurant. The truth is anyone who wants to vote, can.
As for the BBB, what majority are you referring to?January 21, 2022 2:14 pm at 2:14 pm #2053309anonymous JewParticipant
Jack and RE
Your lack of history is breathtaking.
1. The Democrats used the filibuster 314 times while Trump was president. I don’t recall any objections on your parts
2. Schumer used the filibuster this week against a Republican proposal
3. Republican Senator Tom Cotton gave a fiery defense of the filibuster in the Senate, predicting dire consequences if this long standing Senate tradition was overturned. He concluded by saying he didn’t write the speech. It was written by, and delivered by, Senator Charles Schumer when Republicans controlled the Senate.
4. Democrats have stated that requiring valid IDs constitutes voter suppression for African-Americans and Latinos. Rep Burgess Owens, an African-American Representative from Utah, said from the House floor that he was offended that Democrats assummed people of color lacked the intelligence to obtain an ID.
5. Many Blue states, including Delaware, NY. NJ and Connecticut have provisions that make voting more restrictive than Georgia.January 21, 2022 2:49 pm at 2:49 pm #2053326
You missed the point. Don’t eliminate the filibuster completely but only for the this time of voting rights make it harder to filibuster by having to talk for the duration.January 21, 2022 3:10 pm at 3:10 pm #2053347
Reb E, who are you responding to, to what point and what do you mean?January 21, 2022 3:38 pm at 3:38 pm #2053352
anonymous JewJanuary 22, 2022 9:12 pm at 9:12 pm #2053516
Reb e-*to what point and what do you mean?January 22, 2022 11:51 pm at 11:51 pm #2053542
American democracy is built on the free speech idea that everyone can say whatever they want, and, after hearing them all, the voters will make their reasonable, if not perfect, choices, and complicated multilevel system will make it so that one bad choice will not ruin the country, like it happened in Weimar republic.
Jewish debating rules are different, and we all are supposed to strive for truth and not mislead each other. So I am surprised to see here people repeating partisan slogans without trying to bring it to some level of truth. It is unbecoming.
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