September 16, 2010 1:22 am at 1:22 am #592367artchillParticipant
Because Yom Kippur falls out on Shabbos, we only say Avenu Malkeinu once. After fasting and doing our very best all day, we save the best for last, Neilah. Everyone is into it and really feels the last energy to beg hashem for a yeshua for the year.
We all cry out to Hashem, “Aseh leMaan Tinokos Shel Bais Rabbon, protect us for the sake of the young children of our generation”.
STOP RIGHT THERE!!!
Who are Y-O-U to ask Hashem to PROTECT US for the sake of the young school children? What have YOU done to protect a child that YOU might know from being abused? What have YOU done to help rebuild a victim of abuse?
It’s your last chance to plead your case. WHAT WILL YOU DO TO HELP THE TINOKOS SHEL BAIS RABBON?September 16, 2010 2:13 am at 2:13 am #696099WIYMember
Your accusations are far from chilled. I dont know what YOU did for these children but dont assume nobody did anything. I think the crowd here is the type to do something if they know something. You need to give us an apology for assuming that we dont try for these kids. I know I did what I could.
Kol Haposel Bemumoi Posel. I wouldnt mind if the mods deleted this thread its so insulting.September 16, 2010 2:57 am at 2:57 am #696100artchillParticipant
Obviously many of the Coffee Room members are doing their parts. There are M-A-N-Y readers who read these threads but can’t comment because they aren’t members. This was an inspiring thought to think about with Yom Kippur coming up.
Sorry, you felt insulted.September 16, 2010 3:36 am at 3:36 am #696101
when someone is very passionate about something they are usually coming from somewhere…meaning it is related to what they may have experienced or are aware of.so while i agree that the first poster is being kind of harsh on the general public…it seems that the heatedness is not meant to insult anyone in particular.September 16, 2010 4:22 am at 4:22 am #696102WIYMember
Its ok, maybe I shouldnt have jumped on you, I wasnt speaking just for myself I just figured it seemed like an accusation on everyone here.
I certainly forgive you blev shalem just realize that not everybody feels your passion and not everybody is in a position to do something and many people are busy with many other worthy causes as well as taking care of their families (a worthy cause if there ever was one) so please dont be so tough on everyone.
I just watched a clip today about children with cancer, should I start screaming at everyone to donate millions of dollars to help those children? No I dont think that would be fair. They may not feel what I felt when I watched it and they may say well there are people starving Id rather help them….to each their own.
Im not saying that abuse is not a major problem, its huge and of paramount importance, but its very complicated and most people just dont know what to do and would rather not get involved because there are powerful people in the community on the side of the devil who can make life difficult for those trying to do something good as well as many Rabbanim saying we have it under control. This is a very complex issue.September 16, 2010 4:59 am at 4:59 am #696103aries2756Participant
artchill, thank you for starting this post it is very important. I was one of the original three that started the JBAC, Jewish Board of Advocates for Children, the forefront of advocates fighting against Child Abuse in NY. The JBAC has a bill pending that will require the non-public school to comply and come in-line with similar safety guidelines that protect public school children such as mandatory finger-printing of all employees and staff, mandatory reporting of suspected abuse and other similar safety programs to keep our Jewish and other non-public school children as safe as their counter parts in public schools.September 16, 2010 6:04 am at 6:04 am #696104
That last paragraph(wiy)was right on target.Most people are not aware of:
A.the “powerful people on the side of the devil”,
B.nor do they realize how isolating it is when former friends are warned and threatened not to stay friendly to you if they know what’s good 4 them.(“I’m sorry,my hands are tied”…”I got a phone call telling me to stay away”etc.)
HOWEVER:EACH PERSON MUST BE ABLE TO LOOK AT HIMSELF IN THE MIRROR AND HONESTLY SAY:I DID WHATEVER I COULD.September 16, 2010 8:16 am at 8:16 am #696105emoticon613Member
wellinformedyid, about the cancer video and not shouting at everyone to donate: i actually had a story at the kotel once where a girl was collecting for camp simcha or s/t like that, and i passed her saying hatzlacha but didn’t give her any money. she comes up behind me and said – don’t you care for the kids with cancer??
i just walked off, but i almost went back and said to her – you have no idea how much i care for kids with cancer. but you know what? if i had any money, i’d donate it to my parents who are both sick and cannot afford medication either!
my point is: not everyone can do everything. my part in helping kids with cancer may be having kavana during shemona esreh, refa’einu. and the like for everything else.September 16, 2010 12:41 pm at 12:41 pm #696106
i’ve told panhandlers:i’m as broke as you are.may g-d help us both!usually gets a toothless smile after which i run for my life!
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