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The author of the recent op-ed claims
There is a statement in the gemara:
We need to keep liars like these off of YWN.
“Lew Fidler is pro same sex marriage, which makes it difficult for me to vote for him.”
I dont really understand why the toeva marriage issue is the be all end all of issues for us whatever happened to live and let live how does them being “married” affect us in any way really?
The Goq, “Live and let live” is a possule American liberal concept. It is totaly against the Torah. If we had the power,it would be our obligation to prevent even the Goyim from violating the 7 mitsvos.
Here we go again…
Because Toeva marriage affects our institutions and us. Wait until we’re being sued by their activists.
More troubling the article smears an entire community of Jews as irreligious based on hearsay.
“The Goq, “Live and let live” is a possule American liberal concept. It is totaly against the Torah. If we had the power,it would be our obligation to prevent even the Goyim from violating the 7 mitsvos.”
Guess what the Torah applies only to jews, you said IF we had the power we dont! we can and should use the Torah as a guideline for our lives but those who dont live their lives by it are not going to, i equate gay people to xians we have no inclination to tell xians how to conduct themselves nor should we, this is about two consenting ADULTS.
IMHO i believe these people are born with these inclinations it is not a choice and as long as no innocents are involved say children they should be free to live their lives.
“”live and let live” crowd”
Uneeq you are obviously referring to me so please do me the courtesy of addressing me by name thank you.
Goq,the Torah applies to the Goyim also — namely, the 7 mitsvos. It forbids them to do this aveira(which means, obviously, that they can avoid it). It provides for a death penalty for the violation. We are supposed to prevent them from doing it if we could. It also affects the society we live in.
Mdd do the goyim know about the 7 mitzvos? i can make rules of conduct for orangutans but if they are not aware of it what is the point?
Also Mdd i do not appreciate your use of bold print to make your points don’t your words have value with trying to emphasize them with bold print?
Live and let live is a possul concept.
I don’t it can be called a possul liberal american concept.
that is not where the phrase comes from.
and besides, american liberals believe in interfering in many different areas of peoples lives when it violates their own neo-religous ideas.
To thegog
we do have SOME power.
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I would have missed the slanted article in Hamodea if Yaakov Gold had not put his letter on Yeshiva World. There must be issues other than this toeva marriage ewhich is already the law. Where do they stand on other issues?
Which shul does Starobin daven at. I’l like to speak to him over Shabbos (after tefilla of course).
The Goq, who cares if they know about it?? What’s the difference? We have our obligations and concerns (such as not allowing the society to get even more polluted)! Please, re-read my posts.
Uneeq, please calm down. You don’t have to berate someone for getting insulted.
Goq and many others, we aren’t imposing anything. We are voting. Now, realize that we never campaigned against lobster eating, false beliefs, or any other of the Sheva Mitzvos Bnei Noach. We are actually minding our own business, and we don’t want to be living in a lowly society.
It is not a matter of what a guy decides to do. There was no legislation and there won’t be, telling people what actions they may or may not do in this regard. It is about keeping the last remaining strings of morality around. And we want that, and have a right, and responsibility, to vote for that.
If I were to form my opinion of the value of something based on a certain TV show nobody would say that I’m imposing my TV show on them. Why is my personal opinion, that happens to be formed by the Torah, any worse? Lo Tehei Torah Shleima Shelanu Kesicha Beteila Shelhem?
HaLevi, not telling people what to do is not a Torah value.
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