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    Shopping613 🌠
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    Although few will read this

    and little to no comments

    that’s not why I came to write

    I’ve been here for a few years

    although I haven’t made a mark it appears

    I think I still I have right to still write this

    You know I think people take way too seriously

    the comments, drashas, and idiocy

    of some of the people around here

    I must admit it’s really been getting to me

    Although I’m not sure whats flying honestly

    cuz I’m more of a daily sightseer

    But I do see of the threads

    where people leave, complain, and bang their head

    and although I’m no one of much social standing at all

    I feel there’s so much sinas chinum

    Why all the drama? It makes me glum

    To see what the CR has become

    If you just tried to tolerate and love

    everyone, cuz were all children of the one above

    even if it seems were different and we clash

    A change only begins with you

    Whoever reads this, listen you can do

    much much much more than you think

    #1176629

    Shopping613,

    Most of the comments are within of what come before.

    you’re a johnny come lately

    Secondly, you may have thin skin

    who is to say it’s sinas chinum, maybe it is “tolerate and love?!

    On the contrary, the Gemara says not giving reproof when it is called for is Sinas chinum

    Thirdly,

    Psalm 97:10

    #1176630
    CTLAWYER
    Participant

    Shopping……. …..

    The coffee room is a diversion and amusement for me. I like to read differing opinions, minhagim, etc. from a wide spectrum of ‘observant’ Jews.

    I take none of it very seriously, but the regulars in this group are a support system as well as online friends. When Mrs. CTL was on life support in a coma this spring and early summer it was reassuring to know that Jews of all stripes who I have never met were praying for her well being and offering me moral support. No one cared if I daven Ashkenaz, Nusah HaAri, wore a kipah srugah or a sthreimel. I was just another Jew who needed emotional support and it was forthcoming despite my being a Liberal Democrat.

    #1176631
    absan
    Participant

    Shopping 613 and time for truth .Both of you are right……

    and if you ask me how can they both be right? Then your right to.

    #1176632
    HaLeiVi
    Participant

    To yourself you might sound like a Baal Mussar. To me you sound condescending. The same goes for all other militant Ahavas Chinomers.

    #1176633
    absan
    Participant

    HaleiVi ..you hit the hammer on it’s nail. It all boils to you and yourself. It depends how you respect yourself. Every post can be read with a nasty tone (especially if your in that mood) or it can be read in a soft tone . Even if the words are sometimes not appropiate if you read it in a soft tone it sounds so much different. Besides if someone does the spiting don’t be fooled in picking it up. Just go ahead and be your nice self. were all human we are entitled for mistakes. Let’s not be sensetive to whom we don’t even know (might as well be your brother)or act like kids pointing the finger at each others..lets have fun and be helpful for each others.

    #1176634

    We have a new campaign #std (stop the drama )

    #1176635
    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    Absan, as you yourself wrote, you can choose how to read someone’s words. Read HaLeiVi’s post carefully. He has a very good point. (disclaimer: I wouldn’t have necessarily phrased it that way, and I am not giving a “haskama” to the post. BUT if someone thinks that you can choose how to read someone’s post, this is a good place to start, since there is a good point there if you choose to read it the right way, as you pointed out.).

    I think his point is that sometimes when people speak out for “ahavas chinom”, they are actually doing the opposite. It may be unintentional, but it is something to be aware of so that one can try to avoid it.

    #1176636

    The Sinas chinam today in klal Yisroel is worse then it I Was in the time of the destruction of the 2nd Bais Hamikdosh destroyed because of it. So how can we expect Mashiach to come before returning to Ahavas chinam

    May it happen very soon

    The problem with giving reproof today is that no one listens to you BECAUSE EVERYONE THINKS THEIR WAY OF LIFE IS THE CORRECT WAY AND THE REST OF THE WORLD IS WRONG SO DONT GIVE ME MUSSAR….

    #1176637
    HaLeiVi
    Participant

    I have only a vague memory of the time of the Churban, but it was pretty bad.

    Actually, the Gemara is somewhat surprising when it says that they were Tzadikim. We know that there were numerous factions, many of whom were real Apikorsim. Seemingly, they don’t matter.

    #1176638
    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    Shopping613,

    Most of the comments are within of what come before.

    Time for Truth: “you’re a johnny come lately

    Secondly, you may have thin skin

    who is to say it’s sinas chinum, maybe it is “tolerate and love?!

    On the contrary, the Gemara says not giving reproof when it is called for is Sinas chinum

    Thirdly,

    Psalm 97:10″

    Well said Time for Truth!

    #1176639
    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    Whoops! I see that I made a typo in my previous post.

    This is how it was meant to look:

    Time for Truth:

    “Shopping613,

    Most of the comments are within of what come before.

    you’re a johnny come lately

    Secondly, you may have thin skin

    who is to say it’s sinas chinum, maybe it is “tolerate and love?!

    On the contrary, the Gemara says not giving reproof when it is called for is Sinas chinum

    Thirdly,

    Psalm 97:10″

    Well said Time for Truth!

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