Opening a Sefer that Comes on Shabbos

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  • #618586
    tantali
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    If you order a sefer that will arrive via the post office on shabbos (from another state originally) can you open the package on shabbos.

    What are your opinions?

    #1188451
    Abba_S
    Participant

    I don’t think you can as you it’s probably Muktzah.

    #1188452

    Many melachos performed. Do your research and see how many if the 39 are broken if you do this.

    Have a wonderful Shabbos

    He wants to look it up but he’s waiting for the Sefer

    #1188453
    Neville ChaimBerlin
    Participant

    You really shouldn’t order something that you know will arrive on Shabbos. It’s been a while since I’ve learned about these halachos, but I think it might even be a problem if it arrives within a certain time after Shabbos. I think this is one of those “the masses are lenient and we don’t rebuke” areas.

    #1188454
    WinnieThePooh
    Participant

    Neville- unless you are doing an express next day delivery, it’s sometimes very hard to predict when something you order will arrive. if you choose the free shipping option, then you are usually given a range of several days for expected delivery, or you are told they will deliver by certain date. sometimes they surprise you and deliver earlier than the expected date. sometimes your order is broken up into different shipments that arrive on different days. the delivery person is probably not Jewish, and you are not asking them to deliver on shabbos. Wouldn’t it be similar to hiring a goy to do some service for you (say fix your computer), as I remember the halacha, if they decided to do the work on shabbos, that is their choice, it is not a problem, as long as they could have theoretically done the work a different time. Meaning, you could not bring in your computer Fri afternoon and expect it back Sun morning, but if you brought it to the store on Wed, and they could have done it Thurs or Fri, but chose to do it on Shabbos, that is ok.

    #1188455
    Meno
    Participant

    Aren’t there also issues of T’chum?

    #1188456
    iacisrmma
    Participant

    meno: I heard from Rabbi Perl A”H that we do not have to be concerned about the “T’chum” issue. It is a safeik that it was outside the “t’chum” before Shabbos.

    #1188457
    tantali
    Member

    Seems like the answer to this is not so clear. Why would it be muktza if it’s a sefer?

    #1188458
    tantali
    Member

    Mashiach Agent, if you are truly as upset about the tragedies you wrote about some time ago, this pain should be so great you shouldn’t even have the koach to go online and type words!

    Please do your research and do teshuva to be metaken this middah of achzarius

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