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    lamud vov tzadik
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    There is meant to be suffering in the world and suffering can atone for sins but if there is meant to be suffering why is there enjoyment because that interferes with the suffering in other words why does God not give everyone the greatest amount of suffering and then the outcome will be the best because the more suffering there is brings a person even someone who is not religious closer to God

    #1791128

    Reb Eliezer
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    Hashem does not give more pain than what one can take. He does not want one should sway from Him because of pain. It is better to do mitzvos from joy being done from love rather than sadness forcing one to do mitzvos from fear. When one repents from love, he converts his aveiros done purposely to mitzvos because he makes Hashem happy when he is happy whereas from fear, zadonos became shegogos.

    #1791251

    Reb Eliezer
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    The gemora tractate Brochos 5,2 says that they were against accepting pain from love, if it contributes to not being able to learn Torah. Pain from love brings us closer to Hashem getting punished in this temporary world rather than the next world.

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    Sam Klein
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    Reb Eliezer

    A+++
    I am on the same page as you and we should all follow on your page

    #1793470

    The gemora tractate Brochos 5,2 says that they were against accepting
    pain from love, if it contributes to not being able to learn Torah.

    This may be a misinterpretation. I haven’t learned it myself, but I’ve
    heard it quoted as saying that it can be determined that suffering is
    yissurei ahava if it does not disturb one’s learning.

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