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  • #592471

    snapplegrl
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    Whats the mitzva? does it apply to women?( other than a nice healthy breakfast!) anyone have anything to share bout it?

    #698264

    rebdoniel
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    It is not a mitzvah. It is an eitzah tovah, but not a mitzvah. There is no obligation to specifically eat bread in the morning, although in Bava Metziah 107, Chazal say eating bread with salt and a jug of water in the morning protects against many illnesses. There are a whole host of authorities who say that Talmudic medicine and science do not necessarily apply today. (Nishtaneh hatevah). I donlt think there is any concrete evidence behind this eitzah. It is not incumbent upon us to follow health advice in the Gemara or Rambam.

    #698265

    Pas means grains, in this context, so Mezonos cereals would also fall under the category of Pas Shacharis.

    #698266

    The chamelon
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    If you look up the Gemara you will find that it is a specific wheat

    #698267

    theprof1
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    chol hamoed guy, I have no idea how you learn the gemora of pas shachris to mean a specific wheat. The gemora on daf 107b is quite clear that it means bread from any of the 5 grains. The gemora on daf 107a speaks about various grains but has no connection to the concept of pas shachris. It may be possible that grain cereals, whether cold or hot, might qualify as pas shachris in our times, keeping in mind that nature has changed. Snapplegrl, eat Cheerios. Or 7 grain bread.

    #698268

    bpt
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    Snapplegrl, eat Cheerios.

    Plus a handfull of crasins and a sliced bananna, so you don’t fall asleep in your bowl of cheeroios.

    (That’s my brekfast 4-5 days a week, until the winter hits. Then I switch to oatmeal, a spoon of peanut butter and a bannana)

    #698269

    snapplegrl
    Member

    thanks! I love to eat bread so its not a problem. i want to know more about the segula and mitzva that its for.

    #698270

    bpt
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    As a general rule, everything a jew makes a brocha on and eats, gets elevated. PLus you now have the strenght to do the job you are here for.

    The saying we have in our circle is “eat to live, don’t live to eat”.

    #698271

    The chamelon
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    to Theprof1

    I stand corrected 1) its not the Gemora 2) its not a “specific species”

    See Taz & Magen Avraham siman 156 citing Bach citin Mordechai Gadol that there were environmental factors. The Taz “not following the Bach “lo hifsid” the Magen Avraham dimisses the Mordehai as based on a typo, so does thr Pri Megadim & Chacham Zvi teshuva 16. The P”M says it can be any of the 5 mininei dagan Pas Kisnin, but not cereal.

    Seepiskei Yeshuvaquoting the PM as hot beverage perferable (I couldnt find it) and the Aishel Avraaham as saying that cereal is good (I couldnt find it)

    Bottom line its “NUTRITIONAL ADVICE” the only mitzva “guarding health

    Gut Yom Tov & a gut kvitel

    #698272

    The chamelon
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    correction

    See piskei teshuva quoting

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