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  • #617105
    popa_bar_abba
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    I’m so fuming, I can barealkjtlkauy tpye.

    So my daughter goes to play at a so-called friend’s house. And comes back and tells me she ate a peanut butter sandwich.

    Meanwhile, I have told my friend numerous times, and remind them every time we visit, that my daughter is very allergic to peanuts. We’re just lucky and its pure mazel that she’s never had a reaction.

    #1133499
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    Skippy or Jif?

    #1133500
    lesschumras
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    If she didn’t have a reaction, she’s more than likely not allergic

    #1133501
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    LC, I have no idea what popa’s driving at here, but that’s probably his point.

    #1133502
    yehudayona
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    It was a heimishe brand, and she was protected because of its kedusha.

    #1133503
    Mammele
    Participant

    So I guess it was almond butter or something… How old’s your daughter? Unless this is a joke.

    #1133504
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    If she didn’t have a reaction, she’s more than likely not allergic

    I didn’t come here for you to be judgmental. Are you a doctor?

    #1133505
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    Unless this is a joke.

    What night of the week is this? (It’s been a while…)

    #1133506
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    Why is gluten in the title?

    #1133507
    Notamod
    Member

    What do you reckon is it your Mazel or your daughter’s?

    #1133508
    zogt_besser
    Participant

    why isn’t this your daughter’s fault?

    #1133509
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    Why is gluten in the title?

    We didn’t want the thread to be gluten free. People would think we were idiots if we didn’t eat gluten for no reason.

    #1133510
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    We didn’t want the thread to be gluten free.

    Who’s we? Is your daughter helping you write these posts?

    #1133511
    Mammele
    Participant

    Okay, I reread the original post. I was too hasty in my analysis and this is typical Popa speak… Have fun everybody!

    #1133512
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    why isn’t this your daughter’s fault?

    She’s a little kid.

    #1133513
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    #PeanutButterAnecdote

    #1133514
    Health
    Participant

    PBA – Consider yourself lucky. I remember a case where a teenage girl had a candy (bar) and there was something in there – that she was allergic to. They transported her to a Queens’ hospital and they messed up! Then she was brought to the hospital in LI.

    She didn’t make it!

    #1133515
    YW Moderator-42
    Moderator

    Health, that goes to teach you that teenage girls should stay away from bars.

    #1133516
    Mammele
    Participant

    42: Per Health someone died after eating a candy bar. Not funny.

    Health: Popa is just being Popa.

    “We’re just lucky and its pure mazel that she’s never had a reaction.”

    Okay, so read carefully. It’s not that just this time she didn’t have a reaction to peanuts, but she never in her life had one. So he’s basically making fun of people that think they or their kids are allergic (and maybe intolerant when it comes to gluten) for no apparent reason… Kind of like hypochondriacs.

    #1133517
    flatbusher
    Participant

    I don’t care how little the girl is, if she has a health issue she has to be made to understand what she can and cannot have, or don’t send her to people’s houses. How old does she need to be to understand that she can get very sick from eating certain foods?

    Also, maybe she has a mild allergy. Some people get a reaction just from being in the presence of peanuts. BH she is fine, but don’t blame other people for their negligence.

    #1133518
    blubluh
    Participant

    Since kids will be kids and, as you’ve now learned, some adults don’t understand the seriousness of the problem, you might want to consider a different approach.

    More than likely, your physician has discussed with you what to do in the event that your daughter has an allergic reaction, like epinephrine injections, etc.

    Make sure she carries (wears?) the antidote with her at all times with a note explaining in simple terms when and how it is administered (intended to be read by a by-stander in case of emergency). If she’s old enough, she should be trained in its use.

    #1133519
    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    When did popa say the kid is allergic? You’re all just assuming that.

    #1133520
    Health
    Participant

    Mr.Yidd -“When did popa say the kid is allergic? You’re all just assuming that”

    You didn’t read his post -“Meanwhile, I have told my friend numerous times, and remind them every time we visit, that my daughter is very allergic to peanuts”

    Allergies are Not something to joke about!

    #1133521
    Health
    Participant

    Blubluh -“Make sure she carries (wears?) the antidote with her at all times with a note explaining in simple terms when and how it is administered (intended to be read by a by-stander in case of emergency).”

    I’m pretty sure that when the kid is in school – he/she has to give it to the nurse!

    #1133522
    flatbusher
    Participant

    Read his original post. He said she is allergic

    blubuh: good post

    #1133523
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    RebYidd is correct. Popa said he told his friend that his daughter is allergic, but he never actually said that she is allergic.

    #1133524
    apushatayid
    Participant

    the friend was messing with them. they think they ate a pb sandwhich. she really ate styrofoam peanuts, but as a little girl peanuts are peanuts to her and she reported it as such.

    #1133525
    ayingle
    Participant

    skooyach, you guys finally caught on…

    #1133526
    Health
    Participant

    DY -“RebYidd is correct. Popa said he told his friend that his daughter is allergic, but he never actually said that she is allergic.”

    It’s a possibility with PBA, but Not probable! He told his friend numerous times:

    “Meanwhile, I have told my friend numerous times, and remind them every time we visit, that my daughter is very allergic to peanuts.”

    BTW, anybody can be allergic to anything. It all depends on the amount of exposure & the dose.

    #1133527
    SayIDidIt™
    Participant

    #PeanutButterAnecdote

    PBA… I was thinking the same thing!

    #1133528
    B1g B0y
    Participant

    PBA= Peanut Butter Allergy

    #1133529
    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    Peanut Butter Anonymous

    #1133530
    oomis
    Participant

    Sorry folks, my sense of humor leaves when it comes to this subject. There is NOTHING to joke about with allergies. My grandchildren have severe nut allergies, and my grandson is also allergic to eggs. He has had three emergency visits with epi-pens needed, and none of them occurred when he was being watched carefully by his family. Both children know since a very young age, and I mean VERY young,that they are allergic to certain foods. They eat nothing without first making sure it is safe for them and getting permission. Is this really so different from teaching a young child about something being kosher or not? Fortunately,while certainly not a GOOD thing, accidentally eating traif won’t necessarily send you into anaphylactic shock. Eating a tiny piece of a cookie that was produced in a facility that also processes nut items, potentially can and WILL.

    BTW, just as an FYI, which we have learned to listen to scrupulously, the so-called “heimish” brands not only have no kedusha/shemirah attached, but can be lethal to an allergic child, as they do not necessarily list that the items may have been processed in a plant which also makes other things containg traces of nuts. Our frum allergist who wanteed to impress the severity of the allergy on us, told us of one of his young patients who unfortunately went into shock from eating such a cookie at a birthday party. The company’s response when he confronted them on behalf of the parents? It is easier to settle a lawsuit than pay to re-label all their packaging. Seriously??????????

    Please do not make jokes about this extremely serious issue. Not to someone who has a loved one who is allergic. My daughter makes all the snacks she sends with her children, or buys known safe items. Yet, she and we STILL read the labels EVERY time, on even products known to have been of past safe use, because formulas are changed all the time. Look at how certain products are now made on dairy equipment, though they contain no dairy ingredients. A child who is allergic to milk could react to even that item.

    #1133531
    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    Don’t let your sense of humor leave you when you’re confronting a serious issue. That’s when you need it the most.

    #1133532
    oomis
    Participant

    Lest you think I am ignoring the gluten issue, only someone who actually suffers from Celiac Sprue, needs to avoid gluten in all forms. There are people who are allergic to WHEAT, but not to spelt, barley, and the other gluten grains, and they do NOT benefit from avoiding all gluten. In fact, gluten is necessary for the absorption of many nutrients. That is, unless one has celiac, in which case, it PREVENTS the absorption of nutrients and can lead to malnutrition and a whole host of other problems, some of them potentially life-threatening. Nothing to laugh about there.

    #1133533
    Health
    Participant

    OOmis -“Sorry folks, my sense of humor leaves when it comes to this subject. There is NOTHING to joke about with allergies.”

    Funny – that this gets you riled up. And that’s because you have a personal interest!

    I’ve been posting here a long time and a lot of posters make jokes about medical posts.

    As matter of fact, the Frum community doesn’t take much heed to medical advice.

    I just got over Pertussis. YWN had an article about it. It lasted for months.

    #1133534
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    YWN had an article about it. It lasted for months.

    Years, actually. It’s still there! It even mentioned you several times!

    #1133535
    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    It hurts more not to.

    #1133536
    Health
    Participant

    DY -“Years, actually. It’s still there! It even mentioned you several times!”

    How did it mention me? Because it mentioned the word “Health”?

    That’s not my real name.

    This is the article I’m talking about – it’s from October of last year, not from years ago:

    “NYC Health Department Issues Alert Regarding Pertussis (Whooping Cough) in Orthodox Jewish Communities”!

    #1133537
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant
    #1133538
    Health
    Participant

    DY -“I was talking about:

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/general/118827/lakewood-whooping-cough-spreads-in-northern-ocean-county.html”

    That’s from 2012. I just got Pertussis a few months ago!

    #1133539
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    You were probably carrying it around for a few years.

    #1133540
    Health
    Participant

    DY -“You were probably carrying it around for a few years”

    From the CDC:

    Do you know what an incubation period is?

    #1133541

    I do. And I also know it’s a nasty illness and one would expect a wish for a refuah shlaima from this room full of yidden. I hope you are feeling well.

    #1133542
    Health
    Participant

    Thank you Mod 29.

    #1133543
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    Do you know what an incubation period is?

    Yes, and I was kidding around about that, and about the article referring to you because it uses the word health, etc.

    I am glad you’re over it, of course.

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