September 20, 2016 8:41 pm at 8:41 pm #618403
Do you think its fair to go to a shiur or college or somewhere like that sick? i mean people CANT get sick if their at college and work because otherwise theyll miss out on a lot. what do you say about people going to places sick? do you think they should have to be forced to stay home?September 20, 2016 10:28 pm at 10:28 pm #1183935
It’s okay as long as you wear a surgical mask.September 20, 2016 10:34 pm at 10:34 pm #1183936Mashiach AgentMember
Depends what the situation and level of sickness it is including age of person. A cold can’t handle a head ache and needs to go straight to bed while adults it’s normal and can happen in any day but it’s not serious enough to miss work or a minyanSeptember 20, 2016 10:45 pm at 10:45 pm #1183937
Sparklyy: What is your definition of “sick”? Common cold, fever, flu, virus? Is it something that is contagious?September 20, 2016 11:42 pm at 11:42 pm #1183938MammeleParticipant
There is a virus circulating in Brooklyn now which is similar to the flu. Runny nose, fever, sore throat are the typical symptom. It takes about a week to run its course.
If you think you may be infected STAY HOME!
By sickening others they too will have a hard time catching up on school work etc. And so the cycle continues. You don’t want it on your conscience. It may seem unfair but that’s life.September 21, 2016 12:54 am at 12:54 am #1183939
iacisrmma – yes like a cold or flu.September 21, 2016 2:19 am at 2:19 am #1183940
For myself, I generally go to work with the common cold but anything else stay home. With my children, if antibiotics are prescribed then 24 hours after the first dose. If fever is involved, 24 hours after the fever breaks.September 21, 2016 3:28 am at 3:28 am #1183941
iacisrmma – maybe wait until your 100% NOT sick? others can have low immune systems or something and its not fair to them.September 21, 2016 4:20 am at 4:20 am #1183942
Sparklly: Very few adults that I know consider the common cold as being “sick”. Grow up!September 21, 2016 6:27 am at 6:27 am #1183943
Many work places give limited amounts of sick days, and some require Dr’s notes when they are taken. how many people run to their Dr when they have a cold, or even the flu? This policy, supposedly to make sure that people only take off when they are truly sick, and avoid excessive absences, can back-fire, since it means that people are forced to go to work when they are sick, only to infect others and reduce productivity all around.
In any case, you can’t force people to stay home, there will always be viruses and germs lurking in our environments- on the door handles of your classroom, or public bathrooms, the buses and subways, on the money you get from the cashier, etc. B”H our immune systems are kept very busy. The immune-suppressed do have it hard, they often are confined since it is impossible to make our world sterile.September 21, 2016 11:34 am at 11:34 am #1183944
What used to really tick me off when i worked in an office is parents would get a call from school that their kid is sick and then bring that child to the office!! the school dismissed the child for fear of spreading illness to others and the parent brings that child to the workplace, cant afford a babysitter? I don’t care I don’t want to get sick.September 21, 2016 12:49 pm at 12:49 pm #1183945takahmamashParticipant
What’s just as bad is when someone who’s hacking and wheezing with a cold comes into shule and sits next to me. If you’re sick (yes, even with “just a cold”), stay home. Don’t sit next to me. I don’t need your illness. Daven without a minyan for a day or two.September 21, 2016 2:41 pm at 2:41 pm #1183946
takahmamash: To me, when someone is “hacking and wheezing”, it is more than just the “common cold” and I agree that person should stay home.September 22, 2016 6:39 am at 6:39 am #1183947
“What used to really tick me off when i worked in an office is parents would get a call from school that their kid is sick and then bring that child to the office!! the school dismissed the child for fear of spreading illness to others and the parent brings that child to the workplace, cant afford a babysitter? I don’t care I don’t want to get sick. “
true, and I’m not saying it’s right, but it is not exactly easy to get a babysitter with no advanced notice in the middle of the day, who has no other kids with her. The only option would be for the parent to take off- would the boss allow that? Don’t forget, the kind of contact the kid would have with others sitting in a corner of the office is much more minimal than what he would have in school among other kids. And sometimes they send the kid home, not just because he is contagious, but maybe he needs some rest and TLC.September 22, 2016 12:50 pm at 12:50 pm #1183948
Minimal is not good enough you are introducing an ill person to the environment will the boss let the employee take off? guess what not my problem!September 22, 2016 1:23 pm at 1:23 pm #1183949
iacisrmma – thats an insult and thats NOT true because if someone can catch a sickness for example a cold than its a sickness because its contagious and i DONT want to have to sit around with a cold and go to school with a cold and feel miserable with a cold.September 22, 2016 1:25 pm at 1:25 pm #1183951September 22, 2016 1:26 pm at 1:26 pm #1183952
takahmamash – thats what i just said and was referring to and now we all know that your a guy because MOST girls dont daven with a minyan every day.September 22, 2016 1:28 pm at 1:28 pm #1183953
iacisrmma- According to wiki the common cold is “Signs and symptoms may begin less than two days following exposure. They include coughing, sore throat, runny nose, sneezing, headache, and fever. People usually recover in seven to ten days. Some symptoms may last up to three weeks” which means that if you have a cold than you may have numerous things going on including coughing, fever, sore throat, etc… not just runny nose.September 22, 2016 1:30 pm at 1:30 pm #1183954
WinnieThePooh -whats TLC?September 22, 2016 3:02 pm at 3:02 pm #1183955takahmamashParticipant
TLC = Tender Loving CareSeptember 22, 2016 3:54 pm at 3:54 pm #1183956MenoParticipant
“The only option would be for the parent to take off- would the boss allow that?”
I may be wrong, but I believe the law (at least in NY) is that you can take a sick day in order to care for a dependent who is sick.September 22, 2016 3:57 pm at 3:57 pm #1183957MenoParticipant
Sparkly – “takahmamash – thats what i just said and was referring to and now we all know that your a guy because MOST girls dont daven with a minyan every day.”
I knew he was a guy before this. Do I get a prize?September 22, 2016 4:00 pm at 4:00 pm #1183958dovrosenbaumParticipant
It’s so thoughtless and selfish of them. They infect other people.September 22, 2016 5:11 pm at 5:11 pm #1183959
BY the way, I was not saying that it was a good thing to take a sick child to work, only pointing out that they are not necessarily doing it because they are thoughtless and selfish, maybe they are just stuck. Even if they can use a sick day to take care of a sick kid- any family with young kids can testify that kids get sick one after the other, especially in the winter, and a parent can quickly use up all the sick days! B”h my schedule is flexible and I can work from home, since there can be weeks at a time when someone is home sick.September 22, 2016 5:55 pm at 5:55 pm #1183960
I think all will agree that sick people should not infect the public. But just like you CAN”T be sick because of work or school so too these people CAN”T be sick, hence they come to school or work. But can a sick person be quarantined in the USA and what is the process?September 22, 2016 6:32 pm at 6:32 pm #1183961
Abba-S -“But can a sick person be quarantined in the USA and what is the process?”
Yes, they can! Ever hear of Typhoid Mary?!?
They should’ve quarantined the first cases of AIDS – then millions of people wouldn’t have died or come down with the disease!
This is what happened when our country put PC before life!September 22, 2016 6:44 pm at 6:44 pm #1183962
dovrosenbaum – I AGREE.September 22, 2016 11:37 pm at 11:37 pm #1183963
Sparkly: since wiki’s can be edited by anybody they are not a reliable source. Most adults do not take off from work when they have the “sniffles” whether you agree or not.September 22, 2016 11:52 pm at 11:52 pm #1183964
Health, it had nothing to do with PC, which is a made up Republican’t term, and everything to do with the Republican’ts not being able to handle real issues.September 23, 2016 1:12 am at 1:12 am #1183965
Health- Back in 2014 when there was a Ebola outbreak in Africa many health care workers defied their quarantined orders upon coming back to the US. Was anyone prosecuted? I don’t think so. All you are going to do is create a law that is unenforceable resulting in a breakdown of law and order.September 23, 2016 2:20 am at 2:20 am #1183966
Yidd23 -“Health, it had nothing to do with PC, which is a made up Republican’t term, and everything to do with the Republican’ts not being able to handle real issues”
Prove it! S/O posted President Reagan was senile – so he wasn’t running the show! Whoever was – let AIDS run amok because of the PC!September 23, 2016 2:53 am at 2:53 am #1183968
Abba-S -“Was anyone prosecuted? I don’t think so. All you are going to do is create a law that is unenforceable resulting in a breakdown of law and order.”
That’s because they didn’t spread it! The quarantine was just a precaution!
Ever hear of Typhoid Mary?!?September 23, 2016 3:26 am at 3:26 am #1183969
No, you prove it! Typical Republican’t to ask the other to prove a claim first! The burden of proof isn’t on you for this one, but I’m waiting for you to prove your previous statement!September 23, 2016 4:50 am at 4:50 am #1183970
Yidd23 -“The burden of proof isn’t on you for this one, but I’m waiting for you to prove your previous statement!”
“and everything to do with the Republican’ts not being able to handle real issues”
I can’t prove that the reason of the delay in the 80’s was because it wasn’t PC, but I can prove that your statement is false!
From the Huffington Post:
Even by ’93, if they would’ve passed Helm’s legislation, that would have prevented a lot of people coming down with AIDS!September 23, 2016 5:19 am at 5:19 am #1183971
Typical Republican’t to count the Huffington Post as a source when arguing.September 23, 2016 10:47 am at 10:47 am #1183972lesschumrasParticipant
The left is largely silent on this but Cuba did not not have an Aids epidemic comparable to the the US because Castro qarantined anyone diagnosed with HIVSeptember 23, 2016 11:51 am at 11:51 am #1183973
Health- I am aware of Typhoid Mary but you have to realize that that was over 110 years ago. Many civil rights that we enjoy today didn’t exist back then.
The point I was trying to make is that if health professionals wouldn’t listen to a quarantine order in the case of Ebola which is deadly, why do you think an ordinary person will comply with a quarantine order for the common cold? In the US we don’t imprison the sick.September 23, 2016 1:00 pm at 1:00 pm #1183974
Yidd23 -“Typical Republican’t to count the Huffington Post as a source when arguing.”
Stop with your foolish posts! It has nothing to do with the Huffington Post – I just used them to show the history! Investigate yourself and you’ll see everything in that part of the article is true!September 23, 2016 1:12 pm at 1:12 pm #1183975
Abba-S -“The point I was trying to make is that if health professionals wouldn’t listen to a quarantine order in the case of Ebola which is deadly, why do you think an ordinary person will comply with a quarantine order for the common cold?”
And the point I was making, if that person would’ve infected others, they would’ve quarantined them against their will!
I don’t think that a person should be quarantined for the common cold!
Where did you get that idea – it definitely wasn’t from me!September 23, 2016 7:56 pm at 7:56 pm #1183976
Typical Republican’t hypocrisy!September 23, 2016 9:03 pm at 9:03 pm #1183977
Health your leaving out the reb in you responses to rebyidd23 is childish and passive agressive.September 23, 2016 10:14 pm at 10:14 pm #1183978
Yidd23 -“Typical Republican’t hypocrisy”
What is? Speak so that e/o can understand!September 25, 2016 2:12 am at 2:12 am #1183979
Typical Republican’t hypocrisy, that you’ve proven nothing and want me to believe your claim that is not backed up by a smidgen of evidence!September 25, 2016 4:57 am at 4:57 am #1183980
Yidd23 -“Typical Republican’t hypocrisy, that you’ve proven nothing and want me to believe your claim that is not backed up by a smidgen of evidence”
I’ve proven that your claim that -“Republican’ts not being able to handle real issues”, is false!
If you have another reason besides that they were trying to be PC and not being able to handle real issues, I might believe you!September 25, 2016 7:12 am at 7:12 am #1183981HappygirlygirlMember
I thought this thread was gonna be about people going to places that are sick……like clubs,bars with inappropriate things going on or I thought it was gonna be about people going to places with Ebola or zika virus……what a bummer it’s only about coomon coldSeptember 25, 2016 1:57 pm at 1:57 pm #1183982
If you are looking for exotic germs try your local hospital. TB try Rikers Island or any of the other house of detentions.September 25, 2016 2:10 pm at 2:10 pm #1183983
Happygirlygirl – why would we start an inappropriate thread?September 25, 2016 3:48 pm at 3:48 pm #1183984
Abba-S -“TB try Rikers Island or any of the other house of detentions.”
You are vastly misinformed! Jails screen for TB and if s/o has it, they’re on top of it!
Where you’ll find TB and other diseases, is with Immigrants!
When you came into this country, you had to be screened in Ellis island! IDK when they stopped the screening!
And the DemonCrats want to let in thousands of refugees! No one talks about how this will affect Public Health!September 25, 2016 4:26 pm at 4:26 pm #1183985
If the Rethuglicans can handle real issues, why don’t they? If they are unwilling, they are evil, and if they are unable, they are weak!
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