Perek Shira Segulah

I never heard about the kosel requirement.

But you seem impatient. First finish, then wait a little more before you decide it’s not working. Sometimes a shidduch starts cooking at the other end and you’re unaware.

Also, dividing hours (between family/friends) to cover all 24 hours so at least someone is abstaining from l”h at all times can be very successful. I don’t remember how long it needs to be done for (ideally, always…). Good luck!

dunt u need 2 walk arund da wallz of da old sity 40 timez per dayy each and evury day b4 saying da sheera?

In my opinion, it should really only work if you also blow 40 shofars from rams that each were herded around the old city 40 times while the herders said the part of perek shira that rams say.

Very impressed you managed to say it every day for so long, Purple. I have no doubt that you will get into the seminary of your dreams one day!

i have to agree with poster on this one. i am all for segulos. i think ive tried like every single one to help me find a shidduch. and i still got married at age 27- way later then all my friends and even girls i used to babysit. to rely on a segulah in my opinion is borderline apikorsis. as stated before it is not the segulah itself that brings yeshua it is the hope that whatever zechus this segulah has, Hashem will help bring the yeshua quicker. people have to be careful because it is like testing Hashem. sometimes segulos work sometimes they dont and we have no way of knowing when or if they will. but that doesnt mean you should stop saying perek shira after 40 days. by all means keep saying it even if its not bringing the results your hoping for. i said it for 2 years! and who knows how many other shidduchim i made in that time or how many people I helped find parnasah or have a refua shelaima. i know how badly you must feel tho. so heres the best advice you will ever get: my teacher in bais yaakov said to me the best segulah for anything and everything is tefilla from your heart. so if you really need something tell Hashem directly in YOUR OWN WORDS that you need it. perek shira is nice. but what Hashem really wants is to hear the words coming from you. i cant tell you how many times this segulah has worked for me. wishing you much hatzlacha

I read it in in Hebrew and sometimes after reading the Hebrew I read the English. But, it’s more powerful to say it in Hebre. So, I always usually say it in Hebrew.

Of course. Hashem knows everything. But, it gives it more power to the words.

A Segula is like turning your radio to get better reception. It doesn’t help if nothing is being broadcast or if the plug is out.

Eating healthy helps you to be healthy. It doesn’t mean Hashem can’t do what He wants. Many people with healthy lifestyles died of heart attacks and strokes. A Segula is not more foolproof. You try it. If it helped, good; if not, you got to say Perek Shira. Don’t think there is any trick out there that can force Hashem into doing things your way.

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I have a perfect solution to this perek shira not working crisis. Let’s have WIY get engaged to Purple’s sister. If WIY isn’t interested, then we’ll give the zchus to yossi_z, we’ve been waiting for him to get engaged for awhile now. And if that fails, there’s always popa ^_^

@ThePurpleOne – you can never know what good effects your sincere efforts cause, so keep it up – don’t get discouraged just because it doesn’t seem to be working like magic.

Back in the day when a sibling was in shidduchim and nothing was going anywhere, Shir Hashirim was the segulah of choice (Perek Shira hadn’t yet made it on the scene). I was told by someone who had done it to follow a very specific formula – 40 days, same approximate time (mincha), and to say the tefilla afterward with the bakasha and to insert the person’s name after “sha’as ha’azanah” (leploni/s ben/bas plonis). [Naturally, I forgot one day and wound up doing it for more than 40 days.]

While shortly after the end of the consecutive 40 days, this sibling got engaged – which was really nice – it’s only now, after years of appreciating the beautiful shalom bayis that they have, that I regret not having tried it for more people I care about.

hey purple, patience! 🙂 and treasure her while she’s around

Purple – I’ve held myself back from commenting on this thread for a while, but I really can’t any more. Firstly, segulos in general need to be treated with great care – they need proper mekoros miyomim yomimo, not simply brochures from tzedaka organisations. Perek shira, according to Rav Elyahiv, does not have a mekor outside of its own introduction. Secondly, they need to be used in the correct way and most definitely NOT as a quick-fix to Any Given Problem. They also need to be recognized as not being foolproof and that, regardless of how many times you go somewhere or say something, ultimately it is HKB’H who runs the world. If not there are serious problems of issurim d’oraysa (see R’ Yaakov Hillel’s Tomim Tihyeh for further details). Unfortunately there seems to be a trend nowadays of pulling segulos out from hats, the more irrational and illogical the better. They’ve also been commercialised, appropriated by tzedaka organisations who claim to hold the sole key to the gate of yeshuos, openable by them for a small fee.

I can tell you from experience that there is only one truly foolproof segula and that is tefilla. Pure and simple. Doesn’t matter where or for how many days. I did shir hashirim for 40 days, I did perek shira for 40 days, I did the Kosel for 40 days, I did all three together. I tried Iggeres HaRamban (wherein he is mavtiach that one who says it HKB’H will be ‘mekayem mish’alos libo’ that very day). And guess what? H’ said “not yet”. Nearly 3 years later I realised why when I met my wife who is a few years younger than me. Because HKB’H knows what He’s doing, and to quote 2 nice Jewish boys from New York: “G-d only knows, G-d has his plan and the destination is not revealed to the mortal man.”

As far as brochos go (and I didn’t know Gedolim’s daughters were in the business now too…), they’re also not actual havtochos. I’m not sure why R’ Chaim Kanievsky’s daughter would be more efficacious than R’ Chaim himself, who gave me a brocho that I would get engaged during a certain year; I didn’t. Brochos are not guarantees so please don’t get so excited so soon.

As far as your reasons for wanting your sister to get married, I hate to say it but they are really rather superficial, immature and actually a bit selfish. You want a nice wedding to go to, but marriage is what happens after the chasuna and entails what we in the trade call “real-life”. You want a brother-in-law – what for?! You want nieces and nephews, which is all very nice but you won’t be the one raising these children. You admit that your sister is still young, so maybe give her time. Maybe she isn’t quite ready just yet.

Sof kol sof, your sister is young. She isn’t on the shelf. There is no reason for you to be so desperate. No reason to try every segula in the brochure. If you want to see her happy, just daven. And if it doesn’t happen in the time-frame you think it should, don’t worry – maybe, just maybe, HKB’H knows something you don’t.

jmh- very very well said, thanks for not keeping quiet

Purple – Sorry, don’t take it personally, but it’s true. Your stated reasons were all self-centred, hence your reasons selfish. I was not calling you a selfish person, simply saying that you had failed to take anyone but yourself into account. If people can’t point out when others are behaving in a manner that could be improved for fear of not ‘validating their feelings’ or some such then nobody would ever grow. I hate to burst your normally carefree bubble but you are approaching this issue with superficial and, I hate to say it again, slightly selfish motives. I was merely trying to point that out so that you could re-evaluate your approach and see that maybe you have no need to get so desperate. Your sister’s marriage is not about you having a good time at a wedding and you need to appreciate that. Please accept this in the spirit in which it was intended.

Rebbtzein batsheva kanievsky a”H said to daven all 3 tefellios a day meaning shacaris mincha and maariv for40 straight days…the girl whose in shidducgim shld say it if u hav her biography book from artscrol it’s says it in the back hatzlacha