April 25, 2019 11:30 am at 11:30 am #1719283
The Minchas Chinuch discusses the question, if the Beis Hamikdash were rebuilt today, would we all be mechuyav to bring a pesach sheni? The Kaftor Voferach brings from Rav Chaim from Paris that he wanted to sacrifice a korban pesach. We see that he held that currently there is a chiyuv, therefore according to him we should have to bring a pesach sheni.
April 25, 2019 1:06 pm at 1:06 pm #1719412JosephParticipant
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Are you?April 25, 2019 4:20 pm at 4:20 pm #1719450☕️coffee addictParticipant
Where did you get your פרה אדומה ashes from?April 25, 2019 6:00 pm at 6:00 pm #1719486
Same if someone became bar mitzva (or an eved knani becomes freed – for those of us that own one) between pessach rishon and pessach sheni.April 28, 2019 8:41 am at 8:41 am #1719765
The question is the mitzva of chinuch on the father or the child whether the bar mitzva can count with a brocho.April 28, 2019 9:45 am at 9:45 am #1719799YsiegelParticipant
Hold on, please clarify what you mean that he wanted to sacrifice a korban Pesach? And how is it relevant to the Pesach Sheini?
And isn’t it true that the Jews were never *mechuyav* to offer it? It was only a chance for those who were tamei during regular Pesach, no?April 28, 2019 11:33 am at 11:33 am #1719883
No, we will notbring a Pesach Sheni this year. אין ציבור נדחין.
Coffee addict, no ashes required. When the whole tzibur is tomei the Korban Pesach can be brought betum’ah. Therefore it stands to reason that if it were possible for a tzibur to bring a Pesach Sheni we could do so betum’ah. But in any case we’ve got three weeks till Pesach Sheni, long enough for the new kohen godol to bring a poroh adumoh and have everyone tohor. Again, however, this is all hypothetical because אין ציבור נדחין.
There’s no question that if it had been possible for us to bring the Korban Pesach two Fridays ago we would have been obliged to do so. But as Ysiegel points out this is irrelevant to Pesach Sheni.
Ysiegel, yes, if an individual missed Pesach Rishon he has a chiyuv to bring a Pesach Sheni, if he can. Unfortunately we will not be able to, even if Moshiach comes.April 28, 2019 11:33 am at 11:33 am #1719813
He wanted to sacrifice a korban pesach on Pesach Rishon.May 19, 2019 12:25 pm at 12:25 pm #1728977
Lessons from Pesach Shen:
1. Don’t separate yourself from the group
2. Do everything possible to do a mitzva
3. Give people a second chanceMay 19, 2019 2:56 pm at 2:56 pm #1729063
Lesson from Pessach Sheni – one can “demand” from HKBH “loma nigara” (why should we lose out)!
Imagine if they wouldn’t have made the demand!
Likewise, bnos Tzlofchad, imagine if they wouldn’t have demanded a yerusha in Eretz Yisroel?!
But one must be cautious not to fight the Tzaddik Hador.
Korach also demanded: Ki kol ha’eda kulom kedoshim, we are all equally holy…yet, since he entered into a machlokes with Moshe Rabbeinu (she’b’chol dor v’dor), he and his supporters lost olom haza and olom habah.
Careful when you fight and mock gedolim, Rebbes, poskim…even when you disagree with them (as Korach did)..May 19, 2019 5:06 pm at 5:06 pm #1729072
Korach’s statement was against the Torah. Everyone is holy but not on the same level and therefore we need a leader to elevate us to a higher level. This is our purpose in life to reach new heights climbing the ladder from earth to heaven as dreamt by Yaakov Avinu.May 21, 2019 9:45 am at 9:45 am #1730043
The difference between Korach and the others is that Korach came with demands, not questions. The others came to point out a problem they were having, that Moshe may not have thought of. They asked why they were left out, but they were prepared to accept an answer, including “This is what Hashem wants”, if that were in fact the case. All they wanted was for Moshe to please check with Hashem whether that really was what He wanted.May 21, 2019 12:44 pm at 12:44 pm #1730158
All used the “complaint” of “lama”, korach had foundation on the possuk “mamleches kohanim v”goy kodosh”, claiming that each yid can directly serve Hashem without the need of a Rebbe – sounds like a very familiar position promoted by misguided.May 21, 2019 1:22 pm at 1:22 pm #1730202
There is a saying, when you are by a Rebbe, the Rebbe is the Shulchan Aruch, but when you are away from the Rebbe, the Shulchan Aruch is the Rebbe.May 21, 2019 1:33 pm at 1:33 pm #1730218DaMosheParticipant
We don’t need Mashiach to come in order to bring a korbon Pesach.
There are records of R’ Yechiel m’Paris, who traveled to Eretz Yisrael to try and bring a korbon Pesach. However, he couldn’t determine the exact location of the mizbeach, so it didn’t happen.
Later, R’ Akiva Eiger asked his son-in-law, the Chasam Sofer, if he could convince the Sultan to allow Jews to go on the Har haBayis to bring a korbon Pesach. The Chasam Sofer replied that the Sultan would never allow Jews to bring any sacrifices on the Har haBayis, so it couldn’t happen. However, the Chasam Sofer clearly wrote that we are allowed to bring a korbon Pesach from a halachic perspective.May 21, 2019 5:46 pm at 5:46 pm #1730448
No, Rebbetzin, Korach did not ask “lama”. Nor did he even ask for anything in particular; his entire manifesto was “Rav Lachem! Madua Tisnas’u?”May 22, 2019 5:38 pm at 5:38 pm #1731844
You are right, Milhouse, Korach did not ask “lama”, he asked “maduah” – bad choice of words (even though they mean the exact same thing) and that’s why he is chayov missah?!May 4, 2023 10:21 am at 10:21 am #2187018
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By Pesach Rishon it says ומצות על מרורים יאכלוהו whereas by Pesach Sheni it says על מצות ומרורים יאכלוהו why and what is the difference? There is a difference between ‘ו’ and ‘על’. The prior is the ikar, main thing whereas the latter is the tafel, addition, a supplement. At Pesach Rishon, if no pesach is eaten, matzoh is still eaten but not maror, the bitter herbs. However Pesach Sheni, if there is no pesach there is no matzos or maror. This might explain why by korach in the Hagadah we say the Pesach Sheni pasuk. The emphasis is the eating all three items (pesach, matzah and maror) together which is clearer from this pasuk. The two items are eaten together with pesach.
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