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May 10, 2011 2:56 am at 2:56 am #596799elikParticipant
I have been reading the posts about shidduchim crisis and other problems we know about which I whole heartedly agree are issues that should be discussed in public. However this issue that I am writing about is not mentioned in our circles at all and I think it is a growing problem in our community. Parents, wives, and Mechanchim, should know about this issue which can rip apart families and destroy lives. The issue I am writing about is gambling.
What makes gambling such a problem (and anyone who has been involved with it can attest to this) is that like drugs and alcohol, it is very addictive. With the economy bad ppl try to make it rich instantly!
There are many types of gambling lotto is one but mainly its sports betting and poker.. poker is played in poker houses atlantic city or online! sports betting is done thorugh the internet or through bookies ( sometimes the mafia) I know many people who have lost their money and families bec of this !
where is the help from rabbonim we need rehab centers! its out of control!
May 10, 2011 3:49 am at 3:49 am #765749RABBAIMParticipantWhy Rabbanim?? Any yid is responsible to help people who are in trouble. A Rav is not any more responsible than lay leadership or the yid in the shtiebel or synagogue.
If you feel so strongly, corral a few friends, talk up the situation and make a plan!!Hatzlacha!
May 10, 2011 5:18 am at 5:18 am #765750am yisrael chaiParticipantContact R Wallerstein from Ohr Naava in Brooklyn
hatzlacha raba
May 10, 2011 2:13 pm at 2:13 pm #765751elikParticipantthis issue is so rampant in the community but noone talks about it because the ppl that are affected dont tell their family or friends
shidduchim, off the derech, health problems are all public
May 10, 2011 4:39 pm at 4:39 pm #765752ursula momishMemberThere’s an ad on the sidebar here, “RecoveryThroughTorah”–they seem to be based in LA, but perhaps they can give you advice on starting something in your community.
hatzlacha raba.
May 10, 2011 9:34 pm at 9:34 pm #765753cherrybimParticipant“is not mentioned in our circles at all and I think it is a growing problem in our community.”
What kind of pressure was employed to have Rabbi Dr. Abe Twersky’s wonderful video on the “Gambling Problem in the Frum Community” removed from the internet?
May 11, 2011 6:01 pm at 6:01 pm #765754Raphael KaufmanMemberJust a note: Poker is a game of skill. Playing poker for money is no more gambling than playing chess for money. Oh, and while I’m on the subject, Just because someone enjoys a certain activity or food or drink, that doesn’t make it an addiction. Someone who enjoys recreational gambling or card playing or golf or chocolate or wine isn’t an addict and requires no treatment. Treatment is only indicated when the activity interferes negatively with the person’s life. As they say, “gambling is only a problem if you’re losing.” One could argue that gambling is antithetical to a Torah lifestyle but that is a moral concern, not a physical one.
May 11, 2011 6:24 pm at 6:24 pm #765755zahavasdadParticipantTo play poker properly, One must BLUFF. that is try to trick your opponents.
The skill in Poker is how well you can lie and trick (It is not CHEATING)
May 11, 2011 6:43 pm at 6:43 pm #765756cherrybimParticipantkaufman, gamblers are one of the few categories of people who are banned from testifying in Bais Din and for good reason; gamblers are charming conniving lying thieving cheats.
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