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  • #2044376
    Reb Eliezer
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    The jury finds her guilty of manslaughter. Adam muad laolam, a person is responsible for one’s actions even though its was unintentional.

    #2044428
    TAS
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    Adam muad laolam is only by monetary cases. By someone murdering someone else, there are different rules. On purpose, close to purpose and by accident.

    #2044430
    Commonsense1
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    Why didn’t YWN post about the verdict??

    #2044442
    ujm
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    Commonsense1, what happened to the old commonsense?

    #2044447
    Reb Eliezer
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    Would a killer go to arei miklat if one was negligent and should have known that the ax was loose and might dislodge itself?

    #2044468
    FrumWhere
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    But no one has even charged that menuval actor (or someone else who is at fault as to how the bullet got into the gun) who shot and killed someone on the set. What’s up with that?

    #2044446
    ujm
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    Women have no business being police officers.

    #2044457
    Reb Eliezer
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    It is not an accident if היתה לה לאסוקי אדעתיה, she should have known the difference between a taser and a revolver.

    #2044466
    FrumWhere
    Participant

    The poor lady

    #2044485

    RebE > a person is responsible for one’s actions even though its was unintentional.

    We hold professionals not accountable for honest mistakes. How many times in her career she got the right weapon out? thousands? how many of those she saved an innocent person’s life somewhere by arresting a criminal? Maybe she was overworked with all the recent chaos and protests and did not realize .. I did not follow the case, but if this is a one-off incident and she did not have other similar cases, this is not fair. How many will now retire in order not to risk their lives for others?

    #2044496
    Commonsense1
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    @ujm, I’m a new user and find my name to be very appropriate while viewing YWN. I don’t know “Commonsense” the original, but it seems that he was noticeable and I’m sorry for stealing his popular name.

    #2044498
    ujm
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    Commonsense1, my apologies, I mis-remembered. The other fellow I was thinking of uses the screen name “commonsaychel”; so I don’t think there’s a conflict with your name.

    #2044525
    Abba_S
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    All this will do is discourage the Police from arresting criminals. No different than defund the police and no bail. The more criminals out there the more crime being committed.

    #2044531
    jackk
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    Abba_s,

    Thanks for pointing this out.
    This is what BLM has been saying.

    The police follow their own set of rules and when they don’t like things, they just stop working.
    The blue wall of silence.

    What should the punishment be for a police officer with decades of experience that accidentally kills a citizen?

    #2044536
    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    Jackk – that’s an interesting take away. I read it as meaning that police will be afraid to act if they will be jailed for errors, etc. Are you saying that is BLMs teitch or is that what you think police do?

    #2044583
    Health
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    AAQ -“We hold professionals not accountable for honest mistakes.”

    The lesson I see – Do Not become a Cop in Minneapolis!
    They treat the Cops as Criminals & the Criminals as Heroes.
    It’s not the first time.
    This is the Local Government’s way to Defund the Cops backwards.
    This is the New World Order – coming to your Neighborhood Very Soon!

    #2044579
    jackk
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    Syag,

    There are 2 points.

    When someone is given a gun and a badge and swears to uphold law and order they better be ready to act in a professional manner 24/7. Most police do this.

    1) Don’t we want the police to be more careful in the future before they pull the trigger to be 100% positive that they are holding a taser and not a gun? Didn’t we always want that ?

    I was listening yesterday to a talk show host Jeff Ferguson (for 5 minutes before I couldn’t take his lying and stupidity) and he incredibly felt that 3 to 6 months in jail was enough punishment for a policeman accidentally killing an innocent person.

    2) Can police do whatever they want without any repercussions by threatening to not work effectively? Can police act improperly but get away with it by other police covering up for them?

    If the answer to these questions is yes, then BLM are 100% correct. Police can assassinate innocent civilians without fear of justice. That is a major problem with police in America.

    I am all for the police doing their jobs but they must be held accountable when they mess up.

    #2044580
    Abba_S
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    Jackk you are also making my point if the courts are saying that a police officer can’t be considered afraid for their life and use a taser or gun in these cases there will be fewer car stops. More people will die from DUI for example. Do you realy think the average drunk will stop if he knows the cops are not going to shoot. More criminals on the street means more crime. You want our streets to look like the wild west of old where everyone took the law into their own hands.
    Police management not the police officer, will have to decide how to solve this problem. Tactics are going to have to change so instead of trying to taser the driver a tear gas grenade will be tossed in.
    What happens if you, with decades of driving experience gets into an accident? Do you go to jail? Do you lose your license to drive? I don’t think so.

    #2044581
    Reb Eliezer
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    #2044589
    philosopher
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    FrumWhere, you make an astounding point. Why has what’s his name not been charged yet?! The fact is that there are numerous witnesses, and I’m sure video as well, of him pointing the gun at the cinemaphotographer. He was also the producer of the production and was negligent in the overall safety on set. Many of the cast and workers had complained. And nothing, zilch. The American people have a different set of standards for “celebrities”, particularly “celebrities” like him.

    This country has become like Sodom

    #2044592
    huju
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    To ujm: I agree with your comment that women should not be cops. No male cop ever killed anyone unnecessarily.

    #2044615
    Abba_S
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    Jackk Now you are claiming that although this was a proper traffic stop and they were trying to arrest a person with an outstanding gun warrant, which means he missed a court appearance on a gun charge, resisting arrest and possibly injuring some of yhe police officers. But some how if he is shot while getting away it’s a Police Assassination. According to you the criminal is always right.

    #2044616
    ujm
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    huju: Your misplaced sarcasm is duly noted.

    Women shouldn’t be in any position that requires arms. This is independent of how effective or ineffective they may be in a fight with a male.

    #2044619
    ujm
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    Jack, when you utilize rhetoric such as “the blue wall of silence”, you display an antagonism towards law enforcement and opposition to law and order.

    Let us not forget the fact that this deceased individual was a criminal who was resisting arrest at the time of his death, thereby bearing a large portion of responsibility for his own demise.

    #2044625
    tunaisafish
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    Reb Eliezer when it comes to a punishment which serves the victim no good other then justice then she should get punished if she is completly at fault and in no other way

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    #2044690
    Gadolhadorah
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    “Women have no business being police officers…”

    And misogynists have no business posting on social media.

    #2044700
    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    GH- i fought the urge to say that, hoping if ignoring him would make him go away.

    #2044717
    ujm
    Participant

    Are you anti-Torah and anti-nature? Both dictate women should not be placed in a position requiring they be armed.

    #2044724
    Gadolhadorah
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    Syag: Thats normally my reaction to him/her/it (we don’t know the poster’s “preferred pronoun”) but realized that he/her/it won’t go away anyway given a need to continually feed his/her/its dsyfunction.

    #2044777
    jews4biden
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    @Jackk That’s a good point…..

    Police could kill innocent people, like violent criminals for example. It’s terrible he died, he was so innocent. What a kiddush Hashem he made. width=””>

    #2045029
    jackk
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    FrumWhere and Philosopher,

    Re: the actor, I will re-use a comment made by Syag,

    And there you have exhibit number 1 of someone commenting without having the facts. Which I guess is what his case was founded on so maybe it isn’t a problem…
    And there you have exhibit number 2 …

    #2045032
    jackk
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    ABBA_S,

    Are you saying that people will drive drunk as long as they know they won’t be shot at ? That is ridiculous.

    I am claiming exactly what Potter said. (Although I could be more incredulous.) She said she thought she was using a taser and instead used a gun. The criminal did not talk in this case because Daunte Wright was dead.

    UJM,

    The blue wall of silence is a fact and every cop, DA, Politician and Judge in this country knows it. It is not a view point.
    THE REASON WHY, ALL OVER AMERICA, COPS ARE FORCED TO WEAR VIDEO CAMERAS IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN CAUGHT LYING AND COVERING UP FOR EACH OTHER FOR TOO LONG.
    IF COPS TURN OFF THEIR VIDEO CAMERAS THEY ARE ASSUMED TO BEING COVERING UP.

    jews4biden,
    Police do kill innocent people who are not violent criminals and were pulled over for a traffic stop.
    That should cause you to ensure that won’t happen again.

    #2045080
    BY1212
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    Odom muaf laolam indeed.

    But before you get up on your high horse about potter let’s see how you manage in life and death situations like police officers do whenever they have to deal w violent situations.

    I don’t know if potter is deserving of prison or not. But I do know that I would never want to be in the type of situation she was in..

    Same goes for Israeli soldiers who have to deal with Palestinians like elor azarya.

    Al tadun es chavercha ad shetagia limkomo seems extremely appropriate here, especially for someone whose ability to live a comfortable life is enabled by the sacrifice made by people like potter every day.

    #2045110
    ujm
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    Daunte Wright’s absence from this world is no loss to civilized society.

    #2045806
    bored_teen 💕
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    Ujm- I agree that women shouldn’t be police officers. There are countless amounts of videos of female officers who are unable to overpower strong male suspects! Lol I’m just waiting for GadolHadorah to get on here and call me (a woman) misogynistic! 😅

    #2045825
    ujm
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    Bored Teen: Thank you.

    Now brace yourself to be called a sock puppet and misogynist (like you said) by the folks who cannot believe there are sane folks out there who don’t subscribe to their feminism.

    #2061787
    Reb Eliezer
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    She was given 16 months for the punishment of a mistake.

    #2061881
    ujm
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    She should have been awarded a medal for eliminating a criminal.

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