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Remember when Kennedy ruined society was a hashkafic talking point?
Nope
I wasn’t alive then
Which Kennedy are you talking about?
In what year did he ruin society, and how did he do that?
I remember Kennedy as president. I was unaware he ruined society. Hmmm…
RFK ruined society by being the first president not to wear a hat.
*jfk
By ditching his hat, that heretofore society considered proper and essential.
Wait, he ditched his hat and that ruined society?
@Lakewhut
I remember meeting Senator JFK when he was running for President and visited my hometown of New Haven,
I remember being kept home from school to watch his snowy inauguration Jan 20, 1961 and listening to his inspiring speech.
I remember my father’s joy when JFK cut a 91% top income tax rate.
I remember a SCOTUS decision during his brief Presidency that stopped me from being forced to say Christian prayers in a public elementary school.
I remember his Model Cities Program that knocked down the worst decrepit housing and built new.
I remember Camelot and the hope this new young President and his intelligent wife gave the American people, all extinguished by an assassin’s bullets on Nov. 22, 1963John Kennedy actually wore a proper frock coat (kapote, as we call it), and a top hat to his inauguration. The hat got misplaced and when he walked down Pennsylvania Avenue he was bare headed. What actually killed hats as part of male dress was the automobile (which also killed kapotes as a standard business dress – though George V decision to stop wearing them was a recognition of the change).
Ideologically, Kennedy’s tax policies (similar to Reagan and Trump, meaning he is a DINO by today’s standards) serious stimulated the economy. His militant opposition to the the Soviet-China alliance was similar to Reagan, and a lot more than most of today’s Democrats. His support for Civil rights is why frum Jews today have career options beyond working for other Jews or opening their own business – while the five day workweek was due to FDR, a prohibition of religious discrimination in employment came from the Civil Rights Act (proposed by Kennedy, the Republicans and the liberal wing of the Democrats – most of the opposition came form the conservative wing of the Democrats).
>>I remember my father’s joy when JFK cut a 91% top income tax rate.<<
If JFK had left that alone, wouldn’t have a deficit today. However, probably we would then also not the powerful economy we have.
That 91% tax rate, was for the bracket of those earning the equivalent today of around $4,000,000.
However, outrageous for a guy earning 4 mil to be left with only $400,000?!CTALAWYER: “Camelot” was hardly extinguished on Nov. 22. Indeed, the clearest consequence was the Lyndon Johnson was able to get the Civil Rights Act of 1964 passed, and for the first time made discrimination against Sabbath-observant Jews illegal, opening up tremendous opportunities for frum Jews to enter professions that had been closed. A large faction of the Democratic party was opposed to civil rights laws, and Kennedy’s death proved to be the catalyst for the coalition of Republicans and Northern Democrats to get the law passed.
I remember a SCOTUS decision during his brief Presidency that stopped me from being forced to say Christian prayers in a public elementary school.
“Almighty God, we acknowledge our dependence on Thee, and we beg Thy blessings upon us, our parents, our teachers, and our country”
What exactly makes this Christian? The fact that it’s in English?
Sounds like a translation of Modeh Ani to me.
“I acknowledge before You, living and eternal King that You have returned my soul to me with mercy, great is Your faithfulness.”CTL, were there other prayers that they forced you to say in your school?
> However, outrageous for a guy earning 4 mil to be left with only $400,000?!
it is outrageous for anyone who worked in his life and natural for a commie. Would be interested in halachik sources for such expropriation, given that standard sources recommend upper limit of 20% in normal circumstances (excluding emergencies).
@Menachem Shmei
That prayer would be wonderful if it would have remained in public schools.
However, if not for that law, other prayers with shituf might have been instituted, in which case, good they stopped it.@Someday
You have NO idea how the tax code and brackets work!
One pays the top rate only on income above the next lower rate, not from the first dollar.@Akuperma
Yes, LBJ-former head of Senate Democrats and a southerner was able to push the Civil Rights Act through and I give him credit for it.
But LBJ and Lady Bird were far from the Camelot image and inspiration of JFK and Jackie. They did not inspire the youth of America.
I met LBJ and Lady Bird in 1962 when JFK sent them to an event in New Haven. He was a boring and unpolished speaker
BTW>I have met 8 US Presidents (some before , JFK&LBJ, Clinton and one after:Truman).@Menachem Shmei
That was not the prayer used in our public schools. It was the PaterNoster (Our Father in Latin) followed by Ave Maria (Hail Mary). I can remember Miss Maguire fingering her rosary beads wondering why the 30 Hewish kids (out of 36) didn’t know the words.
The following year I was in a Jewish Day School@Lakewhut
His extramarital activities were hidden by compliant Secret Service and the press. During his Camelot Presidency it was not common knowledgeCtl, you got to admit that things outside of your knowledge made your impressions at the time partially untrue. So, yes, you were inspired but also mislead by the leaders you were looking up to.
Fine. Again at today’s 10 xs equivalency’s:
1960
A $4,000,000 income would be left with $1,515,000 minus all the other brackets I did not calculate from the first dollar.
Over 4 mil – 91% ($0 tax)
Over 1.5 mil – 87% ($2,175,000 tax)
Over .5 mil – 62% ($310,00)https://web.stanford .edu/class/polisci120a/immigration/Federal%20Tax%20Brackets.pdf
@Someday
There was no question my father OBM made a lot of money in the 50s and early 60s. He was a major Ba’al Tzedakah. Then his partners outvoted him on a business decision and put the company into bankruptcy. We went from living on his enormous earnings to living on the $4200 per year my mother made as a public school teacher. He got rid of his business partners and rebuilt the business over a 10 year period.
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