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  • #1778233

    👑RebYidd23
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    Political loyalty may seem virtuous to some people, but truly, the right way to vote is selfishly and impersonally. Whoever you think will be best for your hometown, state or country should be the person you vote for, not the person you think is a nice guy or a person who did well in the past but shows no indication of doing well now.

    #1778337

    Joseph
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    Agreed!

    OP: Is this the first time we’ve agreed on something?

    #1778447

    funnybone
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    Vote selfishly? And Joseph agrees?
    1. Vote for the party that upholds moral values.
    2. Vote for the person who has upheld moral values in the past by nominating appropriate federal judges.
    3. Vote anti murder/abortion
    4. Vote for people who are anti socialist, so that people can have more money for worthy causes.
    5. Vote for people who have in the past assisted your community.
    6. Vote Trump!

    #1778486

    charliehall
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    “Vote for the party that upholds moral values.”

    That means voting for the party that opposes Trump. There has never been a more immoral leader in the US.

    #1778491

    Lightbrite
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    7. Vote for politicians

    #1778503

    Joseph
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    Charlie: Clinton and Kennedy were more immoral.

    #1778527

    philosopher
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    Joseph, not only are you right about Clinton and Kennedy being more immoral, but they were immoral in office while Trump was immoral before coming into office. A person can change and we have to judge him as he’s currently.

    #1778526

    klugeryid
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    Ry
    I think I agree but how can you vote selfishly AND impersonally ?
    Did you mean personally?
    Or did you mean without regard to the personality you are voting for?

    Immoral I think Clinton was the worst
    I’m keeping with the same idea of the op , I don’t care at all about the personal morality of the candidate. I’m not marrying into his family.
    I care about his impact on public morality.
    Trump is a personal moral failure
    Clinton dragged down the country

    #1778524

    Avi K
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    Charlie, for once I agree with Joseph. JFK was a Catholic. That is much more avoda zara than Presbyterianism. JFK also pressured RFK into dropping the investigation of Sherman Adams. This was obstruction of justice, which is an impeachable offense.

    #1778528

    devny
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    I’ll just add another bombshell to this:

    Vote for the person who will do well for your country, not the person who you happen to agree with on random issues that have zero connection to making the country successful. Like abortion or gay marriage.

    #1778550

    klugeryid
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    Dev
    Does your husband know you are using internet?

    #1778549

    lakewhut
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    All Jews should vote Trump to show הכרת הטוב. For releasing Rubashkin, alone, is a reason

    #1778547

    lakewhut
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    And almost every time, a Republican is better than a Dem.

    #1778545

    Yomam valayla
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    funnybone said to vote for the PARTY that supports moral values, not the PERSON. As a whole, the republican party represents more moral values, and the democrats represent more immoral values.

    #1778588

    Joseph
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    It’s definitely Moshiach’s tzeiten when RY23, Philosopher and Avi K all agree with me.

    #1778643

    devny
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    klugeryid, yes, and in fact, he uses it too. To post nonsense on YWN, just like me. We try to outdo each other’s nonsense.

    We have such a bayis neeman b’yisrael!!

    #1778783

    LOTR92
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    Charliehall
    Please look into JFK, in my mind he was much more immoral than Clinton. The mods probaly won’t let me say what he did exactly, but trump is fine in comparison to either of them.
    Avi k,
    America was founded with judo-christian values, it follows that a good amount of americans were catholic. JFK’s problem was that he was extremely immoral and not very faithful to his wife.

    #1778813

    philosopher
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    Joseph, interestingly enough, I agree with you on many issues…sometimes I don’t agree with you, but mainly it’s only on that one issue…

    #1778828

    BaruchDybbuk
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    What do you mean when you say that America was founded with Judeo-Christian values? While many of the founders were Christian, there is limited evidence to suggest this. It would be easier to make that case that America was founded on Enlightenment or even Greco-Roman principles.

    #1778868

    philosopher
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    LOTR92, actually BurachDybbuk is correct. Christians will mention JC at every chance they get, Christains mention God rarely, but the founding fathers never mentioned JC or said anything about Christianity, it was only about God all the time, in every document and declaration.

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