October 11, 2011 6:12 am at 6:12 am #599908musicaldignityMember
Im very into politics and I was wondering if anybody has been following except for me. Does anybody want Obama reelected? Im actually a fan of Rick Perry although I do not think he is a good debater. I also think that Herman Cain should be a comedian and although very intelligent: Mitt Romney might be unelectable. Let me know what you thinkOctober 11, 2011 1:09 pm at 1:09 pm #819280TheGoqParticipant
Rick Perry is dropping like a stone in the polls mainly because of his lack of polish in debates and his refusal to do any interviews because he’s afraid he will say something wrong.October 11, 2011 1:38 pm at 1:38 pm #819281yungerman1Participant
Unfortunately the most recent poll shows 41% of those polled want Obama to be reelected. So he has a fairly decent chance of winning reelection.
I like Perry, but as Goq said his poll numbers have tanked. Cain has risen in his place, but I dont see him winning the nomination as of yet. The most likely Republican nominee imho is Romney. I cant say I love him, but he was doing well in the polls. The others- Santorum, Bachman, Gingrich, Paul etc… dont have much of a chance as of now.October 11, 2011 1:53 pm at 1:53 pm #819282
Perry looks good on paper, but when scrutinized he is seen for the weak politician he is. Romney is a tool. he’s just being groomed by the party to win but hes not a real candidate. Herman cain is amazing. simply amazing. i find myself agreeing with him more than anyone else and apparently im not alone in that. hes way up in the polls! Newt Gingrich! oh my god! he is another amazing candidate. all his answers are sharp, on point, and he never involves himself in the petty garbage thats been going on lately in the debates. Santorum is a good candidate but he cant handle pressure. he appears visibly flustered every time he’s asked a tough question whereas cain and gingrich perform VERY well under pressure.
ron paul…now theres an interesting one. you agree with most of what he says…until he says something along the lines of “no we cant have a border fence because then were gonna have national IDs and police pulling you over demanding to see your papers at random” so hes out as far as im concered…but a very interesting candidate. gary johnson…what even. why is he running. im not even gonna even bother even.
john huntsman. now there is a first class &%$^#@ if ive ever seen one. his platform is that the other candidates dont believe in evolution. IM SORRY…/BUT OF WHAT RELEVANCE IS EVOLUTION TO FIXING THE ECONOMY?!?!? who else…um…bachmann. bachmann is a woman so of course she can’t win. see when it comes to race you have a divide between men, women, friends, romans, countrymen…but when it comes to women…men are all united agaisnt them 🙂 so she has no chance whatsoever and she keeps getting shafted in the debates.
i think i covered everyone. gingrich was a little left of center last time, but he really knows how to balance a budget. he was responsible for the clinton surplus…so im not sure hed be such a bad idea now. cain though seems to be a very solid conservative and a shrewd businessman. as of now my vote is going to herman cain.October 11, 2011 1:57 pm at 1:57 pm #819283Dr. SeussMember
Romney is a serial flip-flopper who ran on liberal positions as Governor.October 11, 2011 2:16 pm at 2:16 pm #819284
Dr. Seuss- anyone with a real shot at the White House is going to have to compromise on some party lines. A lot of liberals are upset with Obama for not being liberal enough for them- but he has to deal with a different reality than grungy college kids and smarmy academics. At the end of the day, they’ll vote for him anyway because better that than any Republican- and it’s the same for Republicans. If Romney wins the primary (as is currently the most likely scenario), are you really going to not vote for him because he’s not conservative enough? Would you really prefer 4 more years of Obama to a Republican who occasionally takes the “wrong” position?October 11, 2011 2:36 pm at 2:36 pm #819285yungerman1Participant
soliek & Cat in the Hat’s Dad- While what you are saying may be true, you cant underestimate the power of the establishment.October 11, 2011 3:08 pm at 3:08 pm #819286
dvorak…then vote for john huntsman cuz thats his platformOctober 11, 2011 8:11 pm at 8:11 pm #819287
soliek- what’s his platform? “Republican who sometimes sides with Democrats”? Not a very specific platform. I am going to vote for whoever ends up being the mainstream Republican candidate. Voting for the 3rd, 4th, or 10th guy on the ballot is pointless, and siphons votes from the mainstream candidates. I’m not ready to risk another 4 years of Obama.October 12, 2011 1:27 pm at 1:27 pm #819288
huntsmans platform is sommething along the lines of “democrats dont like republicans…least of all conservatives…so vote for me because im a registered republican simply for the heck of it”
and dvorak…thats a retarded way to vote. just because the RNC decides to market a candidate for nomination does NOT mean that you have to vote for said candidate. also this is a primary…not a general election. if it comes down to it and romney or perry wins the nomination they yeah…id vote them over obama. but why the heck should i vote for a candidate i dont like in a primary simply because teh RNC says i should?!October 12, 2011 3:09 pm at 3:09 pm #819289
soliek- I realized after I hit the button that we were discussing primaries 🙂 I still need to do a little more research about the primaries, though I will definitely take ‘winnability’ into account even then. You don’t “have to” vote for anybody, vote for who you want, but if you care about the party, you do need to think long term.October 12, 2011 3:20 pm at 3:20 pm #819290
The country has too many bored politicians. Note that of the Republican candidates, most are currently unemployed. Perry, Bachmann and Paul all have jobs – the rest are “retired” with too much spare time on their hands – so they start running for President two or three years before the election. So much can happen between now and Novemver 2012, that any speculation is meaningless.
But since I’m already in a yuntufdik mood and don’t feel like doing any real work, I speculate:
1. Eric Cantor will be widely discussed as a Vice-Presidential candidate in 2012, and possible future Presidential nominee. This is based on his role as the Tea Party advocate in Congress, combined with being the Majority Leader of the House of Representatives. Having a Jewish (“conservadox”, at least not an embarassment such as Weiner or Spitzer) Republican will encourage a large percentage of Orthodox Jews to switch from being moderate Democrats to Republicans, including in New York local and state politics.
2. Cain’s radical idea (eliminate the payroll tax, use of a consumption tax, paying for social security and medicare from general revenue) will be adopted by more and more Republicans. Cain will be a major candidate as the “Tea party” favorite, which will offer Black conservatives an opportunity to break with the Democrats and return (as they were until 60 years) to the Republicans.
3. Obama will seek a major foreign policy triumph (an Arab-Israeli peace treaty would be nice but improbable, but I’ld bet on Korean reunification or a revolution in Cuba) to beef up his disasterous resume.October 12, 2011 4:36 pm at 4:36 pm #819291
dvorak…your attitude is what gave us mccain as a candidate in 2008October 12, 2011 8:45 pm at 8:45 pm #819292Dave HirschParticipant
For the record: Mitt Romney’s record is far more liberal than Jon Hunsman’s.October 12, 2011 8:53 pm at 8:53 pm #819293
Note to those complaining about some of the “liberal” Republicans – at this point, most Americans would be happy with any president who realizes that Weimar Germany is NOT an appropriate role model. All a candidate has to do is promise to to print us into ruin and he’ll be better than Obama.October 16, 2011 12:30 am at 12:30 am #819294Dave HirschParticipant
That is precisely the matter with the current (and by now, final) Republican field — not one candidate is addressing the real problems, and they’re all ducking from offering solutions. Additionally, no candidate has a record of cutting deficits and balancing budgets. ‘Purity’ and negativity scared off those who were going to have an earnest discussion with the American people about the direction of the country. Although it would seem viable for the Republican nominee to choose Marco Rubio, a Cuban-American senator from Florida who is brilliant and eloquent, to ensure victory, it would be better for the country to have Governor Daniels or Rep. Ryan as veep.
Here’s my take on most candidates: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/your-dream-ticket-for-2012October 16, 2011 3:49 am at 3:49 am #8192952scentsParticipant
As of now I am with Cain.
He is straight forward. Doesn’t mumble the usual nonsense.
Most importantly, has the most experience in the field that we need the most, which is Jobs.
Admits that he doesn’t have the inteligence data to have an opinion regarding foreign polocies.
Sounds very honest.
I don’t really see any of the above in other candidates.October 16, 2011 3:58 pm at 3:58 pm #819296
Cain probably is the strongest candidate. Not having been a Wall Street banker (regional Fed banks don’t count -they’re mainstreet’s representative to the Fed, and have little clout), or a politician -he can’t be blamed. Cutting the budget means getting a lot of people to give up what they like (social security payments that exceed what the person paid into the system by a huge multiple, free medical care, and everyone’s pet project). Getting rid of payroll taxes might encourage employment, and taxing consumption might encourage people to cut back (and America is “exceptional” in spending much more than we earn – and forcing the Chinese to loan us the difference).October 23, 2011 4:46 pm at 4:46 pm #819297musicaldignityMember
I dont understand why Gingrich is not popular..he is clearly the most intelligent, he has a sense of humor, and has the answers. He also doesn’t get involved in bringing everyone else down – something that is childish and nauseating. I liked Perry in the beginning but somebody on his staff is directing him wrong, he used to be ok just no prepared. Not he’s prepared with what he is saying but just saying the wrong things. For example, I like how he was the only candidate who did not say “I, and mine” but rather our ect ..it shows something about a person. He also started bringing other people down more which is pointless. His argument last time was that Romney employed illegals!! Thats the most petty thing Ive heard from him. If he gets his head on straight I think he can get to the top of the polls again. But throw out his advisory staff!
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