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  • #617877
    popa_bar_abba
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    aren’t getting any breep tonight

    #1158160
    147
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    “Raw Britannia”

    #1158161
    charliehall
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    France is now a wealthier country than the UK.

    And the UK won’t exist at all in a few years. Scotland will certainly leave the UK and Northern Ireland probably will, too. England will become an economically depressed country with high unemployment and no outlet for its products, services, or people. This is a massive self-inflicted economic wound.

    #1158162
    Joseph
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    Scotland will not have another referendum as the British government will correctly argue they just had a referendum were continued union won a landslide victory. And that the loser can’t cry do-over and demand a new election after losing. So the government will simply not permit another referendum to take place in Scotland for at least ten years have passed since the recent election on the question of secession.

    The Canadian Supreme Court, too, ruled that the Quebecois couldn’t have another secession referendum too soon after the last one.

    Northern Ireland surely will not secede as the Unionists have much greater popular support in Northern Ireland than the Republicans, and secession from the UK would effectively mean union with Catholic Ireland, something the Protestant majority of the province strongly opposes.

    #1158163
    Health
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    Charlie -“And the UK won’t exist at all in a few years.”

    Dream On! It’s the rest of Europe that won’t exist!

    Wake up Charlie, the reason is because Europe has let in all these Muslims.

    The liberals here want to end up like France & Belgium!

    Vote Republican!

    #1158164
    popa_bar_abba
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    England will become an economically depressed country with high unemployment and no outlet for its products, services, or people. This is a massive self-inflicted economic wound.

    You mean revenge-inflicted by the EU because they’re mad at them?

    Like Obama who promised he’d put them at the back of the line for trade agreements? Using racist terminology.

    #1158165
    MDG
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    “Dream On! It’s the rest of Europe that won’t exist!

    Wake up Charlie, the reason is because Europe has let in all these Muslims.”

    The UK has also let in huge amounts of Muslims, but maybe the Brits are waking up before it’s too late.

    #1158166
    MDG
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    “France is now a wealthier country than the UK.”

    From the Telegraph

    “The UK overtook France in GDP terms in 2014. “

    See article titled,

    “Booming Britain to become world’s fourth largest economy as France and Italy face G8 exclusion”

    #1158167
    flatbusher
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    Charliehall: What is the basis for your comment? Others have already cited reasons why you are wrong, but really, are you at all familiar as to why Brits wanted to leave the EU? The U.K. pays a ton of money to be a member and then on top of that has to use its taxpayers’ money to bail out the weaker ones. They have no control over immigration and the U.K. among others has been overrun by Islamic refugees. So what do you see as the benefit? BTW, why are you so sure that Scotland and Northern Ireland can thrive on their own?

    #1158168
    writersoul
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    MDG: The point is that everything’s (going to be) so different now. An article from 2014 means little at this point. The UK’s going to lose loads of international companies’ offices- my dad’s company, one of the biggest corporations in the US, already publicly stated that they’ll be severely cutting back in the UK and moving to mainland Europe- and while the lowered pound exchange rate may benefit some trade for now, the lack of connection to the EU will change the whole way the British economy and trade agreements work.

    #1158169
    Abba_S
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    While many international companies may say they will move from England, how many will actually do it. Will they break their lease on office space and fire their British employees and hire new ones. The cost for these companies will be enormous. In this day and age when many employees are telecommuting ie. working from home, it doesn’t matter where they are located.

    As far as starting a trade war over this , the UK has the British Commonwealth (former colonies) to rely on as trading partners besides the US. Similarly a trade war will result in the UK withdrawing from NATO encouraging Russia to expend it’s area of influence.

    #1158170
    Health
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    WS -“already publicly stated that they’ll be severely cutting back in the UK and moving to mainland Europe”

    Who are they going to hire there? Oh, I know, they could give the jobs to the Muslims there and they will in turn give the money to ISIS!

    #1158171
    Abba_S
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    While in theory many international companies can move few will actually do so for the following reasons:

    1) They lease or own office space which will be have to be subleased otherwise they will have to take heavy loss on them. The Saudis bought mansions in the UK which are vacant although there maybe some squatters living there.

    2) Many of these firms are in the financial sector and if they move to the European mainland they may not be able to find new employees with the same level of experience. Also they will have to provided severance packages for these laid off employees. Also with the loss of so many jobs the Bank of England may decide to help these financial experts compete against their former employer luring away clients. Likewise in manufacturing sector, they will only get a penny on the dollar for it and if the government want to extend the former employees credit they can buy it and run it competing against their former employer.

    There are risk involved but I don’t think it is as bleak as portrayed.

    #1158173
    MDG
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    While there may be temporary recoil in the economic world, the long-term effect will be beneficial for Britain. They will not have to worry about bailing out poor countries like Greece, nor do they have to worry about millions of freeloaders infiltrating their country, sponging off their economy, committing crimes, and hijacking their culture.

    #1158174
    huju
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    Re comment by charliehall: Support for Brexit came from older voters. In 5 years, many Brexit supporters will be dead, and younger voters will see the effects of Brexit and turn out in greater numbers. I suspect that this mistake can be corrected, though it will be painful for many Englishmen/women until the mistake is reversed.

    And there are some genuine problems with the EU. Brexit may focus the remaining EU members on fixing the genuine problems.

    #1158175
    Abba_S
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    The UK is the first country to secede from the EU and if successful many of the other countries will follow only time will tell.

    It will be giving Europe the choice between nationalism or the world order. I believe nationalism will win out and minorities will be discriminated against.

    #1158176
    lesschumras
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    Abba, the Brits didn’t want want to pay for bussing

    #1158177
    Health
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    Abba-S -“I believe nationalism will win out and minorities will be discriminated against.”

    You mean minorities like the Muslims?!?

    The problem with the Western world is that they don’t know how to deal with the radicals!

    They shouldn’t be letting them in and calling them refugees!

    They should have destroyed the radicals right away and Not do this PC garbage!

    This is true with Israel also. Look in the news section on YWN about Hamas. Who let Hamas survive – if not Israel itself?!?

    Does the Western world care more about being PC than it’s own survival?!?

    #1158178
    Abba_S
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    Health : I mean that everyone not White Anglo-Saxon Protestant will be discriminated against which include: Blacks, Europeans, Catholics, Muslims, Jews, Slavs, Orientals etc…. This is not going to be the official government policy but how the man in the street will act.

    #1158179
    Health
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    Abba-S -“Health : I mean that everyone not White Anglo-Saxon Protestant will be discriminated against which include:Europeans, Catholics.”

    Wrong! This is against Muslims!

    Look at N. Ireland, WASP’s worked very hard to get along with the Catholics!

    #1158180
    Abba_S
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    Less Chumras: In the UK the government pays for yeshiva education which is why I heard some non-Jews sued to get into a yeshiva a few years back.

    Health: While the vote to secede from the EU was mainly due to the influx of Muslims, there have been incident reported against Slavs and other non English speaking residents. There are many similarities between what is starting to happen now and the 1930s.

    #1158181
    lesschumras
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    Abba, did you really think was being serious?

    #1158182
    Health
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    Abba-S -“Health: While the vote to secede from the EU was mainly due to the influx of Muslims, there have been incident reported against Slavs and other non English speaking residents. There are many similarities between what is starting to happen now and the 1930s.”

    This is what happens when a country goes to the far left! The people revolt and become far right!

    It’s happening here; hopefully it won’t go that far!

    Now e/o sees the danger of being a leftist.

    Wake up Jews before it’s too late! Stop thinking that it’s alright to be a leftist!

    #1158183
    Ash
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    “Less Chumras: In the UK the government pays for yeshiva education which is why I heard some non-Jews sued to get into a yeshiva a few years back.”

    Not really. Yeshivas (= chareidi schools) are typically private or voluntary-aided in which case they have 100% control on their admissions except that it must be published and fair, but can include that you only eat glatt, or have no TV or whatever. Voluntary-aided schools do get state funding which doesn’t cover kodesh staff.

    Even state-aided schools can set their admissions criteria to exclude goyim as long as it’s religion-based, not race based.

    It’s “free schools” – a third category of which there are only 1 or 2 MO-type schools that have to accept 50% goyim if they don’t have enough yidden applying.

    #1158184
    charliehall
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    “the reason is because Europe has let in all these Muslims.”

    That has absolutely nothing to do with the EU. The EU-caused immigration is from places like Portugal and Poland.

    #1158185
    charliehall
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    “The UK overtook France in GDP terms in 2014. “

    And that was reversed nine days ago.

    #1158186
    charliehall
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    “This is what happens when a country goes to the far left!”

    There hasn’t been a British Prime Minister who can even be remotely called “far left” since Harold Wilson, who left office in 1976.

    #1158187
    charliehall
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    “committing crimes”

    Violent crime in the UK is FAR lower than in the US. For example, last year NYC had 352 homicides. London, with the same population, had 118.

    #1158188
    charliehall
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    “They will not have to worry about bailing out poor countries like Greece”

    The UK contribution to the EU budget last year was approximately 13 billion pounds. The UK GDP is approximately 2.8 trillion dollars. It dropped in a single day by 10% because of the crash of the pound. So to save 13 billion pounds the voters decided to penalize themselves by 280 billion pounds.

    #1158189
    popa_bar_abba
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    GDP didn’t drop in a day. You should google what GDP is.

    #1158190
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    Maybe all the factories shut down.

    #1158191
    MDG
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    “Violent crime in the UK is FAR lower than in the US. For example, last year NYC had 352 homicides. London, with the same population, had 118.”

    You missed the point. They immigrants are driving up the crime rate. That’s why they want to stop the open borders.

    Furthermore, supporting millions of immigrants is extremely costly.

    When you measure their GDP in terms of dollars, it went down (temporarily), but in the pound life will go on as usual. Again I believe that things will go back to normal in a few months to a year. That will give impetus to other countries to exit.

    #1158192
    Ash
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    Hang on, as someone who wanted to leave I wouldn’t claim immigrants drive up the violent crime up. Drive up the terrorism rate, yes, probably, but that’s a tiny proportion of crime.

    But violent crime? I think you’d have to be idiot immigrant to resort to crime, when you’ve come to live, seek work and milk the benefits system.

    I’m pleased we’re leaving but not looking forward to overpriced, lazy native British workers repairing my home, and the public infrastructure. The Europeans are far more hard working and typically just as skilled.

    #1158193
    147
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    You Brexited our 13 colonial states, today 240 years ago, so this is not your 1st encounter with Brexit.

    #1158194
    MDG
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    ” I wouldn’t claim immigrants drive up the violent crime up.”

    Google it

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