Poor People Don’t Get to Have a Rav in the Summer

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  • #1567119
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    In most Flatbush shuls, the rov leaves either for a camp or a luxury hotel vacation. It’s not enough that fellow neighbors have the pressure of getting a bungalow just to fit In, their rav abandons the shul.

    #1567194
    Joseph
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    This is a boldfaced lie. The vast majority of the rabbonim are home during the summer.

    #1567233
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Your title is

    POOR PEOPLE DON’T GET TO HAVE A RAV IN THE SUMMER

    and then you talk about Brooklyn

    Wow, you’re closed minded! My Rav is that n shul in the summer (save for a few days in eretz yisrael) and I live in an out of Brooklyn, New York area

    #1567224
    NOYB
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    I don’t know what Flatbush rabbanim do, but even if they do all go to the country:
    1. How poor are these poor people that they can’t even afford a phone?
    2. Why should a rov not be allowed to take a vacation? They have very stressful jobs, and a time when 75% of the shul is gone is a great time to take a much-needed break.

    #1567243
    MDG
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    Rabbis deserve vacation too.

    #1567270
    yehudayona
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    I don’t live in Brooklyn, but most of the rabbis in my community (including all the rabbis at the shuls at which I regularly daven) are working at camps in the summer. Perhaps this relates to that other topic about rebbes getting full-time salaries, since all these rabbis are part-timers whose primary job is in chinuch. During the week it’s not a problem since they can be reached by phone. It becomes something of a problem if you have a shailah on Shabbos.

    #1567265
    skripka
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    My Rov is in the country for the summer. So we have a bigger Kiddush

    #1567297
    1
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    MDG does it have to be 8 weeks?

    #1567317
    reb mutche
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    What about all the people up in the mountains, as well as children in all the summer camps, don’t they deserve to have a Rav on hand?

    #1567228
    Neville ChaimBerlin
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    It’s true in all of NYC. Nobody warned me; it’s actually kind of frightening to think of what we would have to do if we had a halachic emergency.

    For anyone planning to move to NYC, be warned… Don’t listen to Joseph. What the OP is saying is 100% true.

    #1567331
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Reb mutche,

    That’s a good point!

    Maybe each shul should have an assistant rav so when the rav is away he can fill that void

    #1567362
    Gadolhadorah
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    There are many virtual rabbonim available ‘on-line” and will be glad to answer any questions regarding halacha for a modest charge (payable by credit card). And if it is really something important, I’m sure you can call or text your regular rav in Switzerland or Monticello and he will answer you from his vacation villa or bungalow.

    #1567399
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Neville

    You lived in all of NYC (Bronx, queens, Staten Island, Brooklyn and Manhattan) in each of those different communities?

    All of is a very strong generalization

    #1567410
    apushatayid
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    There are MANY Rabbonim in Brooklyn during the summer. MANY also go away, either to the mountains, E’Y or to a camp where either they, or the Rebbetzin may have a job. To say that there is noone around in Brooklyn in case of “halachic emergency” is ridiculous.

    #1567417
    apushatayid
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    For what its worth, my shul has a “summer Rav”. someone handpicked by the Rav to “cover” for him while he is away.

    #1567420
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    Reb mutche I don’t think you understand what the job of a rav of a shul entails. It’s one thing if you’re a Rosh yeshiva and your yeshiva goes up. There are poor talmidei chachomim who can’t afford to go up.

    #1567442
    kollelman
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    While I understand the sentiment of OP, it is focused only on the side of the people staying home. If many or most of the members of the community are in another location for the summer, the Rov may actually be with them.

    #1567440
    iacisrmma
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    i know that many Rabbanim from Flatbush do take vacations during the summer yet in almost every case there is a sign up with the Rav’s vacation location and/or summer phone number or a listing of Rabbanim who can be called if there are shailos. There are also many Rabbanim who are home who are available to answer shailos.

    The Rav of my shul does not take a “vacation” but does go away for a shabbos or 2 to visit his children. Many years ago I had a shailoh during the nine days, called my Rav and on his answering machine were the names and telephone numbers of 4 poskim to cal if there was an urgent need for a psak.

    I have heard that R’ Asher Zimmerman TZATZAL, did not go away for the summer so he can be home to answer shailos.

    #1567494
    Toi
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    Gam Rabbanim ktzat zkukim lichofesh na’im, im hasandalim.

    If anyone knows where this is from, I request they get in touch with me asap. We have much to discuss.

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