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December 16, 2019 7:48 pm at 7:48 pm #1811204MosheMGParticipant
Has anyone heard of the concept of a portable mikveh that can be used in a persons garage/ back yard? If so could you provide details.
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Moshe
December 17, 2019 7:59 am at 7:59 am #1811346Takes2-2tangoParticipantPortable means portable. Being in your backyard isn’t portable.
December 17, 2019 7:59 am at 7:59 am #1811347Takes2-2tangoParticipantputting a mikvah on a flat bed or closed bed, now that would be more on the portable side of things
December 17, 2019 8:00 am at 8:00 am #1811349MilhouseParticipantBy definition a mikveh cannot be portable!
December 17, 2019 11:28 am at 11:28 am #1811421benignumanParticipantA portable mikvah creates problems of mayim shuvim. For it to be kosher, you would have to make a hole in the container to be mevatel it as a kli, then attach the “portable” mikvah to the ground and reseal the hole.
December 17, 2019 11:29 am at 11:29 am #1811440knaidlachParticipantalmost sure that a mikva must be in the ground, not in a כלי.
December 17, 2019 11:30 am at 11:30 am #1811457DovidBTParticipantMaybe transportable is a better term.
December 17, 2019 12:48 pm at 12:48 pm #1811494banjobobParticipantwhy would you want a mikva in your backyard? get a swimming pool
December 17, 2019 7:46 pm at 7:46 pm #1811653MilhouseParticipantKnaidlach, indeed, even inside a kosher mikveh, if someone left a bucket in there one may not tovel while standing in it or (if it’s upside down) on top of it.
December 20, 2019 1:58 am at 1:58 am #1812527BenephraimParticipantDo you remember Rabbi David Miller who wrote the book The Secret of the Jew as well as other books? He was a talmid of Slobodka. Settled in Oakland Ca. The thesis of his sefer was the personal home made מקוה טהרה. There is a lot to say about his ideas etc but if someone remembers I will continue.
December 20, 2019 9:14 am at 9:14 am #1812532Abba_SParticipantThe concept is to enlarge the standard bath tub so that it can hold more than 40 saw and use tap water as the water source.
December 20, 2019 12:25 pm at 12:25 pm #1812554GadolhadorahParticipantI am still not clear on WHY anyone would want a “mobile mikvah” as compared with using either a regular mikvah or finding some local body of water while travelling.
December 22, 2019 12:48 am at 12:48 am #1812737MilhouseParticipantR MIller’s proposed home mikveh was not portable! It was to be an integral part of the building, making it mechubar lakarka. That was a major point in making it kosher.
December 22, 2019 1:13 pm at 1:13 pm #1812860GadolhadorahParticipantThere are a number of ‘plans” posted on the internet as to how one may configure a small and low-cost mikvah at home that will satisfy halacha (except of course for the most mehadrim). No one has yet explained WHY anyone would need the ability to put such a strcuture on the back of a pickup track or flatbed trailer and drive it around. Even chabad have not suggested such a variatio of their “mitzvah tanks”.
December 22, 2019 1:20 pm at 1:20 pm #1812863BenephraimParticipantChabad has mobile mikvah in Bar Harbor Florida. I think.
December 22, 2019 1:46 pm at 1:46 pm #1812886GadolhadorahParticipantBenepraim: Has the new Chabad “mobile mikvah” been inroduced since the Trump family announced they are relocating to southern Florida?? Also, there is a long-established mikvah on Collins Ave in Bar Harbor so why would you need a “portable mikvah” to drive around/?
December 22, 2019 4:02 pm at 4:02 pm #1812915MilhouseParticipantBenephraim, no, they do not! A mobile mikveh is by definition impossible. And Chabad, who are very machmir in mikva’os, could certainly not make such a thing.
December 23, 2019 12:15 pm at 12:15 pm #1813208BenephraimParticipantA great debt is owed to Chabad as far as מקווה is concerned. I remember in JTS the influence of the Rebbe was pronounced and expressed by Professor Commodore Zlotnick who was a Professor of Mishnah.
December 23, 2019 6:15 pm at 6:15 pm #1813366GadolhadorahParticipantBenephraim: Are you saying that Rav Zlotnick of JTS based his design of a “mobile mikvah” based on the original chabad specifications? I’m still not sure I’ve ever seen or heard of a Chabad mobile mikvah???
December 23, 2019 7:18 pm at 7:18 pm #1813388BenephraimParticipantEsteemed gadol. sorry for the kasha and borscht mixup. I was told by a reliable source that Chabad has a mobile מקווה in Florida. Now Florida is flooded anyway. The mayseh with Rabbi Commodore is an old mayseh. He promoted טהרת המשפחה in JTS and quoted the Rebbe in his writings and teachings. While there were visitations by Chassidic Rebbes in JTS as well as Roshei Yeshiva members of the מועצת I think the chizuk of Professor Commodore in the name of Rebbe was gevaldig.
December 23, 2019 7:19 pm at 7:19 pm #1813389MilhouseParticipantWhat on earth are both of you yammering about? There never were any plans for a mobile mikveh. Not by Prof Zlotnick, nor by Chabad, nor by anyone else. There is no such thing. The OP simply made it up
December 23, 2019 8:15 pm at 8:15 pm #1813395BenephraimParticipantA quick question which will show you that historically there were in fact transitory מקוואות. Do you have a מסורה about טבילה in Miriam’s brun? Any Hungarian ( magyar) chasid will agree?
December 24, 2019 8:23 am at 8:23 am #1813463Abba_SParticipantI think what is meant by a mobile Mikveh is a kit that convert the standard bath tub into a Mikveh. For example, you are on vacation and there is no Mikveh available. You use the kit to convert your hotel/motel’s bath tub into a Mikveh and when it’s no longer needed you convert it back to a regular bath tub.
As far as having a Mikveh in the backyard there are privacy issues as people can see over the fence or via drones unless the users are wearing bathing suits.
December 24, 2019 11:56 am at 11:56 am #1813562benignumanParticipantAbba_S,
Maybe you could attach something to the walls of the tub to make it big enough to hold 40 sa’ah of water, but the water is still coming in the from the regular faucet.
Now, there are those that hold that water that comes in from regular plumbing is not sh’uvim but if that is what you are relying on, then you can probably use the hotel pool too (as long as you confirm that they do not fill the pool with a hose).
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