Posuk in Tz’fanya (Trei Asar) About Zman Moshiach
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January 6, 2009 4:48 am at 4:48 am #589061jgw70Member
Perek Bais, Posuk Daled in Tz’fanya speaks about the desolation of Aza, Ashdod and Ashkelon in them times of Milchemes Gog Umagog. Any thoughts on how this ties in to what’s going on in EY right now?January 6, 2009 10:33 pm at 10:33 pm #630877aziParticipant
No.January 7, 2009 1:05 am at 1:05 am #630878eyesopenMember
If you look at the news, Aza is a mess, and Ashdod and Ashkelon are emptying out and are therefore becoming desolate. With each day more are leaving the cities in droves.
There was a Torah Codes search about Obama and his name came up in Yechezkel, Perek 38 which talks about the leader of Gog. (Count every 7th letter from the word nasi and it spells out Obama). Read it!
Rav Kanievsky also stated that by the last night of Chaunuka people in Eretz Yisroel will be in bomb shelters.
Add to that the Birchat hachama year this year which falls out on the fourteenth of Nissan as also happened by yestzias Mitzrayim and with the salvation of Purim.
Also Rabbi Zohn dreamed of the Chofetz Chaim, his rebbe, whose message was that we have to get ourselves prepared spiritually (as reported by Mishpacha Magazine).
For those who are interested the autistic children who communicate via keyboarding and are said to be from very holy neshomos are also saying that this year is the one!
Everything points to this year being the year of Geula-the final push to there finally being Moshiach. Why do you think Nefesh B’enefesh is still having tons of aliyah applicants? People feel a change in the world, that something unusual is going on. For the ones who needed to be torn away from their gashmiyus, the economy collapsed. For those who hate Israel for whatever reason, Hashem is showing his Hand and His Chessed by having these Hamas rockets miss people, and land in empty places.
At this point I am truly surprised at every day that passes and i don’t hear Eliyahu blowing the shofar! People have said that this is IT the final war. I’m looking forward to having a Bais Hamikdosh, of Techiyas Hameisim, of having the entire world know without a trace of doubt who our Creator is, and we will feel Hashem’s presence in a way we can’t imagine today.January 7, 2009 1:58 am at 1:58 am #630879
We must all do teshuva whether or not this is zman moshiach. The ikkar of zman moshiach isn’t moshiach- it’s the revelation of Hashem’s Unity and Greatness- check out the Rosh Hashana mussaf shemona esrei. By stressing moshiach, we stress the tafful of it all.January 7, 2009 2:05 am at 2:05 am #630880mazal77Participant
Yes, I certainly feel it in the air and in depts of my soul. There is a major change going on. The Whole world is turning against Am Yisrael. There are many Genocidal chants at Demonstrations going on world wide!!!. In Ft. Lauderdale,Florida, at one of the Pro-Hamas rallies, a woman was chanting ” ” Jews go back to the ovens” Yes, in America. In Holland, Dutch Socialist Party MP Harry Von Bommel is seen chanting among others ” Hamas, Hamas,Jews to the Gas” “Jihad, JIhad” Also, in Melbourne, Austraila, Algeria, Montreal,Canada, New York. With coming in Office, Since we really don’t know what he will be like. He says he is Pro-Israel. Most of the Country expects him to bring “change to the world. Especially, regarding Mid-East Policy.
I don’t mean to scare anybody, but I don’t think things will get better till Moshaich comes. I think Hashem is trying to get us to return to Israel,ASAP. May He come soon. Like Now!!January 7, 2009 2:37 am at 2:37 am #630881yankdownunderMember
eyesopen- Are you referring to the book called Secrets Of The Soul? I read it a couple of years ago. The book describes how severely disabled children who are Autistic, Down Syndrome d,.. by using their teeth to type a keyboard are telling everyone to wake up regarding the events being revealed right now. I think the children are called facilitators.January 7, 2009 3:12 am at 3:12 am #630882RoshYeshivahMember
The questions on this is as follows;first,this Pasuk talks about the churban not the redemption(also seen from the fact that the downfall of gaza is mentioned together with other israeli cities which applies to the times when gaza was under israel).Second why do we never find these things before it happens? Obviously because the meaning of the verse could be interpreted differently.It is only after these things occur that we push them into the verse! The third thing is since when should we busy looking for signs of moshiach?We’re supposed to await his coming every minute of the day.this is not some sort of guessing game of who could know first when he’s coming! Somebody sent a letter to the country yossi magazine with 9 proofs of moshiacs coming only that in the next issue somebody else challenged every single one of his claims! We have to stop wasting our time guessing instead we should prepare ourselves to greet him hopefully NOW!!January 7, 2009 3:27 am at 3:27 am #630883a yiddish kindParticipant
Facilitators are people that work with autistic children. They facilitate with the child.January 7, 2009 3:40 am at 3:40 am #630884mazal77Participant
I have the book “secrets of the soul” there are two young men (Daniel and Binyamim) who commuicate through FC. They even have a website with their messages. http://www.dani18.com. Very intresting stuff.January 7, 2009 4:07 am at 4:07 am #630885ChachamMember
I am curious how it was decided that birchas hachamah in those years was on the 14th of nissan
as far as i am concerned we have no record when they were me`aber the chodesh or shanah.January 7, 2009 4:38 am at 4:38 am #630886
Does anyone remember the proofs going around by the first Gulf War? Yaakov Avinu didn’t reveal the keitz, so now we know the keitz due to some misapplied passuk?January 7, 2009 4:43 am at 4:43 am #630887
“Gog” is the same Gematria as Ahmadinejad.January 7, 2009 1:35 pm at 1:35 pm #630888jewishfeminist02Member
The “proof” about birchat hachama was already discredited several times over. I believe there’s another thread on here about “proofs” that Mashiach is coming this year. This one is probably unnecessary.January 7, 2009 2:38 pm at 2:38 pm #630889Feif UnParticipant
The only REAL credible thing I know of is that R’ Elya Svei (he should have a refuah sheleimah!) said years ago that Moshiach will come in the year 2009. When I heard this, I didn’t believe it at first. I didn’t believe he said any such thing. Then, my brother told me he was there when he said it – in the yeshiva I used to attend! He said R’ Elya said very clearly, “Moshiach will come in two zero zero nine”. I also confirmed it with my Rosh Yeshiva who was there at the time. The yeshiva has it recorded as well.January 8, 2009 3:15 am at 3:15 am #630890Bais Yaakov maydelParticipant
shtultzy guy, i think it was Rebbe that wrote down the calendar for the next few thousand years, until 6,000.
from what i hear, birchas hachama happens every 28 years, and this pesach will be the third time in history that it will end up on erev pesach taf shin samach tes (14 nissan), the other two being yetziyas mitzrayim and the nes of purim.
taf shin samach tes=tehei shana siman tova
how is ahmadinejad spelled in hebrew?January 8, 2009 1:39 pm at 1:39 pm #630891Feif UnParticipant
I don’t think there was Birchas Hachama in the year of yetziyas mitzrayim. Yetziyas Mitzrayim occured in the year 2448. If you add 28 years to it, and figure out all the years it was recited, you’ll see that it shouldn’t be recited this year – it would have been recited in 5752, and would be recited again in 5780.January 8, 2009 3:46 pm at 3:46 pm #630892
It’s speled ?????????January 8, 2009 10:06 pm at 10:06 pm #630893kapustaParticipant
how is it the same gematria as gog?January 9, 2009 12:19 am at 12:19 am #630894WolfishMusingsParticipant
rom what i hear, birchas hachama happens every 28 years, and this pesach will be the third time in history that it will end up on erev pesach taf shin samach tes (14 nissan), the other two being yetziyas mitzrayim and the nes of purim.
Ooooh, I am so going to be called an apikorus for this, but here goes… 🙂
What about 1925?
The WolfJanuary 9, 2009 4:43 pm at 4:43 pm #630895
If you take every 9th letter in ?????????, it’s the same ???? ??? ?????? as ??? (Im HaKollel).January 10, 2009 8:54 pm at 8:54 pm #630896eyesopenMember
I attended Rav Mendel Kessin’s shiur and in it he gave proofs according to the Ramchal about why these times are ripe for Moshiach. I have no permission to repeat what he said as his CD’s/tapes are a source of income but I recommend listening to them. If he is coming to your city it is worthwhile to go to the shiur and hear in person what he has to say. I left with the feeling of wanting to welcome Moshiach and cleanse my neshomo in order to be able to greet him.January 11, 2009 2:41 am at 2:41 am #630897Bais Yaakov maydelParticipant
i understand 1925 was a year when there was a birchas hachama…but did it fall out erev pesach?
and why would that be apikorsis?January 11, 2009 6:46 am at 6:46 am #630898
I hate to rain on anybodys parade but F.C. (facilitated communication with autistic kids) has been clearly exposed as a farce using a simple experiment: the kid was shown a card with a picture on it the facilitator was told that the picture was of say a bird, while really it was an elephant. The kid when asked what he saw would always type “bird” as opposed to “elephant” (wich is what the kid really saw).
The facilitators were simply fooled by somthing called the “ouija effect” google it (ouija effect”) for a more detailed explenation.January 11, 2009 6:54 am at 6:54 am #630899
The “Torah codes” also dont stand up to real scrutiny as you can google and find codes in moby dick and many other books. Also any book written in a language without any vowels will turn up lots of codes if you know what to look for.
We all hope moshiach is coming and hopefully he will come soon but why do we need to publicly say silly proofs? lets just daven and hopefully he’ll come!January 11, 2009 10:33 pm at 10:33 pm #630901
The torah codes are NOT equal to the Moby Dick codes- It’s more than just one word. It’s several words together. Harold Gans, noted mathemetician, has spoken about it.
Regardless, we are frum because of a mesorah that our ancestors stood at Har Sinai and received the Torah directly from Hashem, not because of any modern mofes-worker being legitimate, or even Torah codes.January 12, 2009 1:24 am at 1:24 am #630902WolfishMusingsParticipant
i understand 1925 was a year when there was a birchas hachama…but did it fall out erev pesach?
and why would that be apikorsis?
Poor joke on my part.
The WolfJanuary 12, 2009 5:17 am at 5:17 am #630903abcd1234Participant
i really dont want to dtart any sort of difference in opinion and get into anything, the methos of f.c. as you say may be a farce but these children are special neshamos, regardless of whether you believe it or not dont just completely write them off like that.January 12, 2009 5:17 am at 5:17 am #630904
The moby dick codes also have more then one word encoded. Google “moby dick codes” and click on “asassinations fortold in moby dick” (its the first link i think).
You said “Regardless, we are frum because of a mesorah that our ancestors stood at Har Sinai and received the Torah directly from Hashem, not because of any modern mofes-worker being legitimate, or even Torah codes.” AGREED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!January 12, 2009 5:47 am at 5:47 am #630905
My point was that by using F.c. they arnt even actualy communicating with that special neshomo.
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