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December 10, 2017 8:26 pm at 8:26 pm #1423903HealthParticipant
To prevent most cardiac problems, e/o should monitor their lipid levels on a yearly basis!
December 11, 2017 2:47 am at 2:47 am #1424038☢️ Rand0m3x 🎲ParticipantAnd here I thought this was going to be about the magazine.
December 11, 2017 1:11 pm at 1:11 pm #1424376HealthParticipantDoes anyone in the CR get yearly lipid testing?
December 11, 2017 1:36 pm at 1:36 pm #1424418ubiquitinParticipant“everyone” ?
Do you have a source for that?
December 11, 2017 5:15 pm at 5:15 pm #1424515HealthParticipantUbiq -““everyone” ? Do you have a source for that?”
From labtestsonline:
“In an effort to get an earlier start on cardiovascular prevention, the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) released a new guideline in 2011 that included the recommendation that children get routine screening with tests for lipids, including cholesterol. ”“To prevent most cardiac problems, e/o should monitor their lipid levels on a yearly basis.”
Only if the first time it was elevated./December 11, 2017 7:34 pm at 7:34 pm #1424543ubiquitinParticipantInteresting thanks for sharing
though the USPSTF grades the evidence as insufficient
And certainly as yo u point out “Only if the first time it was elevated.” In other words not Everyone.Though even for Adults With no risk factors, there is no proven benefit in screening Males prior to age 35 and females prior to age 45.
December 12, 2017 4:53 am at 4:53 am #1424671HealthParticipantUbiq -“Though even for Adults With no risk factors, there is no proven benefit in screening”
Look you’re confusing the lay people here!
Most societies say you should start screening at 20 y/o!
I’ll name them:
“American College of Cardiology (ACC)/American Heart Association(AHA)
National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute (NHLBI)
American Association of Clinical Endocrinologists (AACE)
National Lipid Association (NLA}”December 12, 2017 9:00 am at 9:00 am #1424815ubiquitinParticipantI havent checked most societies guidelines
The USPSTf includes all the socities you mention in their evaluation(as an aisde for example the ACC doesnt recommend screening over age 75 so still not “everyone”)
bottom line get medical advice from your doctor not the internet
December 12, 2017 10:38 am at 10:38 am #1424926HealthParticipantUbiq -“havent checked most societies guidelines”
That’s Not my problem!
“The USPSTf includes all the socities you mention in their evaluation”
Most don’t agree with the USPSTF.
“(as an aisde for example the ACC doesnt recommend screening over age 75 so still not “everyone”)”
There are others that say into the 80’s.
But when s/o uses the word “Everyone”, it doesn’t mean 100%!“bottom line get medical advice from your doctor not the internet”
NOT TRUE!
From NIH research:
“53.5% (274) stated that they used the Internet for medical information.”December 12, 2017 12:12 pm at 12:12 pm #1425052ubiquitinParticipant“That’s Not my problem!”
Certianly not. sorry if I implied otherwise“Most don’t agree with the USPSTF.”
sure particularly labcorp and pfizer. Though that doesnt mean it is whats best for the patient.“There are others that say into the 80’s.”
People say all sorts of things. But without evidence who cares
“But when s/o uses the word “Everyone”, it doesn’t mean 100%!”
Great! so not “Everyone” Im glad we agree
“NOT TRUE!
From NIH research:
“53.5% (274) stated that they used the Internet for medical information.””that in no way contradicts what I said. Just beacuse people do it doestn mean it isa good idea. Though in this case the risks are small.
ASnd in general I didnt mean to complelty ignore the internet. The internet is invaluable . Just suggesting gettign advice from a medical provider.(If we just relied on the internet I wouldn’t know to treat accident victims differently depending on how many cars were involved. That isnt to be found on the internet at all. We need dedicated health professionals like you to educate the masses)
December 12, 2017 2:13 pm at 2:13 pm #1425781HealthParticipantUbiq -“sure particularly labcorp and pfizer. Though that doesnt mean it is whats best for the patient.”
When I wrote Most I was referring to these:
“American College of Cardiology (ACC)/American Heart Association(AHA)
National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute (NHLBI)
American Association of Clinical Endocrinologists (AACE)
National Lipid Association (NLA}”
Not Labcorp or Pfizer!“Just beacuse people do it doestn mean it isa good idea.”
That’s your opinion.
From the same NIH article:
“Sixty percent felt that the information on the Internet was the “same as” or “better than” information from their doctors.”December 12, 2017 7:42 pm at 7:42 pm #1426212ubiquitinParticipant“When I wrote Most I was referring to these… American Association of Clinical Endocrinologists (AACE)”
Then you are wrong again
this is from the AACE 2017 guidline:
“Evaluate all adults 20 years of age or older for dyslipidemia every 5 years as part of a global risk assessment”
“Screen adolescents older than 16 years every 5 years or more frequently if they have ASCVD risk factors, have overweight or obesity, have other elements of the insulin resistance syndrome, or have a family history of premature ASCVD ”
Clearly they do not reccoemnd for “Everyone” nor “on a yearly basis”“That’s your opinion.”
Obviously. thats why I wrote it.From the same NIH article:
“Sixty percent felt that the information on the Internet was the “same as” or “better than” information from their doctors.””Still not at all disagreeing with anything Ive said. Yes I know people do it. Yes I know that people fel the information is better than received from doctors. (again obviously, why would they do it if they thought it was worse information)
That just doesnt make it trueDecember 12, 2017 8:23 pm at 8:23 pm #1426222HealthParticipantUbiq -“Clearly they do not reccoemnd for “Everyone” nor “on a yearly basis”
I guess you Missed my previous post:
““To prevent most cardiac problems, e/o should monitor their lipid levels on a yearly basis.”
“Only if the first time it was elevated”
Maybe you need an eye doc?!?If you have an elevated level – ask your PCP. Because some will recommend earlier than a year for a recheck.
December 12, 2017 10:41 pm at 10:41 pm #1426238ubiquitinParticipant“Maybe you need an eye doc?!?”
Yep maybe
“If you have an elevated level – ask your PCP”
As IVe been saying. Im so glad we agree.and best part- no charge. ITs my Chanukah gift to you
December 13, 2017 12:03 am at 12:03 am #1426283147ParticipantThe only “prevention” on my mind currently is preventing the next terrorist attack on the subway, and the next system wide delay on mass transit.
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