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  • #596951
    a mamin
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    How many bucherim still dont have a Yeshiva this zman?

    #768073
    WolfishMusings
    Participant

    How many bucherim still dont have a Yeshiva this zman?

    I don’t know, but if you’re trying to make a point, perhaps you can provide more details. Are you talking about a specific geographic location? A specific hashkafah? A specific age level? Are you talking about right now or do you mean September/Elul?

    And, lastly, if there is such a problem, perhaps you’d like to elaborate why there are so many (if there are) bochrim not enrolled for next year.

    The Wolf

    #768074
    adorable
    Participant

    what would you like to know? what info are you trying to figure out? you wanna know if you are the only one without a place? then the answer is no.

    #768075
    a mamin
    Participant

    Yes, A relative of mine has not yet been accepted in a yeshiva this zman. 15 year old in Broooklyn. No major problems, an average boy with regular learning capabilities.I think it’s outrageous!! I hear there are askanim working on it and they tell the parents there are hundreds of Bucherim in Brooklyn without a yeshiva this zman??? I wanted to know if that could possibly be true???

    #768076
    WolfishMusings
    Participant

    A relative of mine has not yet been accepted in a yeshiva this zman. 15 year old in Broooklyn. No major problems, an average boy with regular learning capabilities.

    Is he going into ninth grade? Tenth? Elventh?

    How many places has he applied to?

    Have any of the places given him any feedback as to why he was rejected?

    The Wolf

    #768077
    apushatayid
    Participant

    It could possibly be true, although let me give you the other side.

    I know a 16 year old brooklyn boy who is not in yeshiva this zman (in fact, not since elul zman), askanim were and still are working diligently to open doors for him, and have gotten him a farher in at least 3 different yeshivos. Yet, he is still not in yeshiva. This boy doesn’t want to be in yeshiva. Once his parents came to that realization, they worked with the appropriate people and arranged for someone to learn with him 90 minutes every morning. They hired a tutor to prepare him so that he can take and pass the test to earn his GED and he works locally for 4-5 hours a day.

    It is not always the fault of the yeshiva that someone is not enrolled in yeshiva. Perhaps this relative of yours is going through the motions of taking farhers to make his parents happy, but is sabotaging himself purposely at the same time so that he wont be accepted.

    #768078
    happiest
    Member

    apushatayid, that is very very commendable of those parents!! Just saying.

    They saw how the yeshiva atmosphere was not the right one for their child and decided to let him make something of himself rather. Very very impressive!!

    #768079
    a mamin
    Participant

    The bucher is chasidish and wants to go to Yeshiva. He is terribly embarrased, doesnt daven in shule because he doesnt want to be asked ” Which Yeshiva are you in? He had one Faher and was told he is accepted in that Yeshiva, next zman. Its not really a time to take new Bochurim now, so now what???

    #768080
    WolfishMusings
    Participant

    He had one Faher and was told he is accepted in that Yeshiva, next zman. Its not really a time to take new Bochurim now, so now what???

    I’m confused… if he was accepted in a yeshiva, what is the problem?

    The Wolf

    #768081

    Wolf, he was accepted for next zman, not this one.

    #768082
    BUBBLE
    Participant

    Think only boys have this issue girls is just the same and I’m talking about the lower grades and even pre school. Some one was told to enroll her kids in public school and see how fast they’ll get into a school.

    #768083
    WolfishMusings
    Participant

    Wolf, he was accepted for next zman, not this one.

    Ah, thanks for the clarification.

    Considering it’s already late-May, I think you have to write this z’man off as lost.

    The Wolf

    #768084
    Pac-Man
    Member

    That’s painful to contemplate. How can one write off even one day of Yeshiva?

    #768085
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    Considering it’s already late-May, I think you have to write this z’man off as lost.

    You might be right, but it’s a big problem; a teenager having no schedule for months straight is a dangerous thing – batala m’viah lidei shiamum and zimah.

    What I don’t understand is that if this is a normal bochur, just not a m’tzuyan, why can’t he stay where he was before Pesach?

    #768086
    WolfishMusings
    Participant

    That’s painful to contemplate. How can one write off even one day of Yeshiva?

    OK, do *you* know of a school that will take him for one month? Because I can’t think of one.

    The Wolf

    #768087
    EzratHashem
    Member

    That the boy says he doesn’t want to be in yeshiva is not sof davar. Then the question needs to be answered, why was yeshiva not a place where he felt comfortable?

    #768088
    a mamin
    Participant

    Okay DY: Yeshiva from last zman is not an option. Wolf: It’s not just one month. Chasidish Yeshivas have this zman until after Sukkos.This is getting really out of hand. I hear Askanim are working on it, but nothing is done as of today. So here we see a bachur sitting home since Pesach, not even davening in a shule becsause he’s embarrased if anyone asks him why he isn’t in yeshiva, or” which yeshiva are you learning in?” I was told there are over a hundred bucherim in his place!!

    #768089
    apushatayid
    Participant

    Ezrat. You are correct. The boy as well as his parents met with a number of people (including several neighborhood Rabbonim) and it was determined that this course of action is most suited for this boy. Chanoch LiNaar Al Pi Darko means what is best for him, not what everyone else does.

    #768090
    apushatayid
    Participant

    Why wasnt he accepted for this Zman? Is there a finite number seats in the shiur room?

    #768091
    WolfishMusings
    Participant

    Wolf: It’s not just one month. Chasidish Yeshivas have this zman until after Sukkos.This is getting really out of hand

    Really? Chassidic yeshivas go through the summer until Sukkos?

    The Wolf

    #768092
    a mamin
    Participant

    Yes, the zman is from Rosh Chodesh Iyar until the Yom Tovim.

    APY this bucher is only 15.

    #768093
    WolfishMusings
    Participant

    Yes, the zman is from Rosh Chodesh Iyar until the Yom Tovim.

    In that case, I offer my apologies. I did not know that. My intent was not to insult anyone or offer impractical advice.

    The Wolf

    #768094
    a mamin
    Participant

    Wolf:You haven’t insulted anyone! The situation is pathetic!!

    #768095
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    the zman is from Rosh Chodesh Iyar until the Yom Tovim

    Then I really can’t understand why he was only accepted for next zman, unless they feel that his original yeshiva is an option.

    Either way, it is indeed very sad.

    #1864335
    n0mesorah
    Participant

    Where is this bocher today?

    #1864507
    commonsaychel
    Participant

    @a manim I can relate to that, my son was not accepted into yeshiva because of politics but a shaverer bucher with money was accepted, the other bucher went on the next year to molest half of the younger grade

    #1864536
    n0mesorah
    Participant

    Dear Common,
    Were you relieved that he did not get in?

    #1864588
    CTLAWYER
    Participant

    Here we have a bachur sitting home since Pesach……………………………………………………

    Am I missing something???
    In most of the Jewish world the bachurim were sitting home since Pesach because the Yeshivos have been closed down because of COVID-19.

    Even colleges that are on Trimester or quarterly system weren’t accepting new students this spring and Summer sessions are on line if being held at all.

    My grandchildren have been here since the wee of March 12th and we have no idea when their assorted Yeshivos will restart. Each state will have different rules

    #1864592
    commonsaychel
    Participant

    Dear n0lm,
    Were you one of the victims?

    #1864608
    n0mesorah
    Participant

    Dear CTL,
    My fault. I bumped the post to see if it would get updated.

    #1864612
    n0mesorah
    Participant

    Dear Common,
    Not sure if the slur was intended, but I appreciate the pun. Other than that, I have not been victimized at any point.

    #1864702
    commonsaychel
    Participant

    N0M, no slur intended just a stupid question deserves a stupid response

    #1864714
    n0mesorah
    Participant

    Dear Common,
    My point was that Hashem was looking out for your son. I apologize.

    #1864734
    commonsaychel
    Participant

    N0M he got in instead of my son, so it would have been a moot point because both would not get in and he molested young grades not his.

    #1864753
    5ish
    Participant

    What does it mean he wasn’t accepted because of politics? Like you are persona non grata in the community?

    #1864980
    commonsaychel
    Participant

    @5ish, he was an average boy with slightly above shironos, I am average working man with no skeletons in the closet besides this once never had any issues getting my kids into school so no persona non grata issues, competing with a fancy family with deep pockets, who wins? the molester from the fancy family, and how do I know how he got in? the assistant admin told me he wrote out a 15K check two weeks before the farher

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