June 15, 2008 7:24 pm at 7:24 pm #587834yoshiMember
Nearly every time I’m driving through a development in Lakewood, I see children as young as 2 or 3 running around in the streets, without a parent or guardian in sight. Two things wrong here. 1. Why is this child not being supervised? 2. Why is a child treating the street as a playground? Why wait until something God forbid terrible occurs to address this issue.June 15, 2008 8:37 pm at 8:37 pm #990517Joe SchmoMember
This is not only in Lakewood. I have seen this in every community, including Monsey, Kiryas Joel, New Square, 5 Towns etc etc.
When there R”L is a tragedy, things get in order for a while…….
…..then it’s right back to business….June 16, 2008 2:11 am at 2:11 am #990518charliehallParticipant
I live in the Riverdale section of the Bronx; I used to live in Pelham Parkway. I’ve never seen unsupervised children that young in my neighborhood. Parents take their kids to the playgrounds and watch them like hawks.June 17, 2008 12:02 am at 12:02 am #990519mdlevineMember
maybe the kids get the idea that playing in the streets is safe because of all the adults that walk in the streets RIGHT NEXT TO THE SIDEWALK (GRRR). I see this as a daily happening in Monsey. Narrow winding roads and some person (not gender specific) is walking in the road (with cars coming in both directions) right next to the sidewalk.
recently, traffic permitting, I stop and suggest that they use the sidewalk.June 19, 2008 8:53 pm at 8:53 pm #990520yossiMember
You raise an excellent point Yoshi. I too am a lakewood resident, and whenever i drive through various complexes, i see 2 year olds wandering, completely alone on the streets. It baffles me that the parents are irresponsible enough to allow this to occur. This isnt a bungalow colony. These are public roads with vehicle traffic. Any parent who thinks its ok to let toddlers wander the street should be arrested for child neglectJune 19, 2008 10:22 pm at 10:22 pm #990521ujmParticipant
Is it merely “coincidental” that besides yossisiegel having a strikingly similar name to yoshi and they registered their yw account the exact same day as each other, that one is highly complimenting the other?June 20, 2008 5:49 am at 5:49 am #990522williMember
ujm – I’m cracking up! You’re not the 1st poster to mention that ppl are using more than 1 screen name to identify themselves. Are you also perhaps guilty of this? 😉 (Not that it’s wrong) I’m starting to like the idea. Hm…. any1 have a cute name suggestion for my back up signature?June 20, 2008 8:37 am at 8:37 am #990523KlerrMember
I live in the Rova Hayehudis and we let our children run free all the time.
My children feel loved by their neighbors.June 22, 2008 7:13 am at 7:13 am #990524yoshiMember
Actually I’m a girl, so even if I had nothing better to do then to make alias names I wouldn’t lower myself and make it a guys name 🙂 lol ,,,,So how about us “Adults” try and figure out how to solve this issue & you “ujm” can continue your attempt to investigate YW members. I would just like to add another incident that occurred this week that was so close to being a tragedy, I live on a block in a quiet neighborhood with lots of little kids running around and 25 mile speed limit signs everywhere. As this little boy was riding his bike across the street a car barreling down the street nearly hit him & never even slowed down for the kid, or the STOP sign which led to a busy street. So it’s not just the kids that should be getting a lesson on safety, it seems the adults need it just as much (maybe more) – Remember people, when you’re operating something weighing around 3000 pounds at high speeds, the people on the road are no match and are extremely vulnerable, so how about some of you take off your blue tooth head sets, or handheld phones, and stop being in such a rush all the time. Have a little common sense when driving through neighborhoods, kids can dart in front of you out of no where. SLOW DOWN. STAY ALERT. –June 23, 2008 2:48 am at 2:48 am #990525ujmParticipant
yoshi, so it truly is purely coincidental that you “and” yossiesiegal:
1) both purportedly live in lakewood
2) yossie pops up for the first time on yw backing yoshi up
3) remarkably similar screen names
4) both accounts registered on the exact same day
you didn’t “put him up” now, did you?
Like new york lotto says, hey you never know – anything is possible!June 23, 2008 7:29 pm at 7:29 pm #990526KlerrMember
Our neighborhood is wonderful. Our neighbors help watch our children.June 29, 2008 6:39 am at 6:39 am #990527havesomeseichelMember
even in more “out of town” communities I have seen kids running around in the streets where (chas veshalom) kids can get hurt. I happen to live on a busy street where I have been witness to almost car accidents because kids are crossing the street without supervision and NOT WHERE THERE ARE LIGHTS!!!! sometimes corners are not enough!!!
and what about not using helmets,bike lights, and wearing reflective or white shirts at night????? isn’t allowing this putting our dear kids into sakanas nefashos???? car accidents are not funny!!!
in my shul there is a sign to warn parents not to cross in the middle of busy streets as kids use adults as examples for what they should/should not do. Being a bad example can cause serious repercussions!!!December 2, 2013 12:52 pm at 12:52 pm #990528
What about protecting ourselves? We should never cross the street by ourselves.June 19, 2018 10:56 pm at 10:56 pm #1543607
If children aren’t allowed some freedom at a young age, they will not be able to function as adults.June 20, 2018 12:39 am at 12:39 am #1543654
Reb Yidd, this is not the type of thread for your jokes. Please either be serious or else take your comments to a different thread.
Actually, Rabbi Plony and I have marveled in horror at exactly the sort of behaviors that the OP and subsequent posters have described. Whenever we’re tempted to ask ‘Where are the parents?’ when we see tiny kids outside alone, we recall the drivers who apparently consider stop signs and red lights to be merely suggestions, and the pedestrians who have so much bitachon that they don’t even look before stepping into the roadway. (Okay, THAT was sarcasm.)
Aside from everybody venting in the Coffee Room, does anybody have any productive suggestions? All I can do on an individual basis is educate my own kids and maybe mussar the neighbors’ kids a little.June 20, 2018 7:36 am at 7:36 am #1543662
2013 RebYidd23 just punched you in the face. 2018 RebYidd23 sees your point but isn’t the biggest fan of your wording.June 20, 2018 2:07 pm at 2:07 pm #1544055iacisrmmaParticipant
Actually I am wondering why a thread started in 2008 with one comment in 2013 needed to be bumped.June 20, 2018 2:07 pm at 2:07 pm #1544072
I apologize. How should I have phrased it?June 20, 2018 2:07 pm at 2:07 pm #1544077
I apologize to both Reb Yidds. How should I have phrased it?June 20, 2018 2:11 pm at 2:11 pm #1544085☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
Oh, the irony of Joseph lecturing someone about using two screen names.June 20, 2018 3:06 pm at 3:06 pm #1544101
I bumped for top secret reasons. Let’s just say that it was to communicate a specific message, and I chose the thread based on the title, not the contents.
MRS PLONY, “your jokes” implies that you’re singling me out.June 20, 2018 4:09 pm at 4:09 pm #1544124
One safety problem is that when parents put leashes on their children, people get mad.June 20, 2018 4:10 pm at 4:10 pm #1544163
Whoops. I didn’t even realize that this was an old, bumped thread. Now I feel truly sick to my stomach. Ten years and we’re STILL wrangling with the same issue: bad drivers, worse pedestrians, and un-supervised tots? the horror.
Reb Yidd, I sincerely apologize. I thought this was a current topic and you were making joking comments about safety.June 20, 2018 8:27 pm at 8:27 pm #1544251Midwest2Participant
At the risk of being considered a second incarnation of Yoshi, I’d like to second most of what Yoshi says, particularly about drivers. I live out of town (but with lots of refugees from the NY area) and I’m petrified at the way people drive. Whenever possible I jaywalk in the middle of the block to avoid the close calls with people zipping around the corner with a phone mashed to their ear. The miracle is that so few people get hurt. My Dad, a”h told me that whenever you see a ball bounce into the street, you hit the brakes, because there will be a child right behind it. We can’t expect a six-year-old to think first – that’s our job as adults.
As for kids, it depends entirely on the neighborhood, and in some part on the kid. Some places aresafe for kids to wander around in, some places aren’t even safe for an adult. Some kids are reliable, some aren’t. I don’t think that most of the little ones you see are entirely unsupervised. Usually there’s an adult or an older sibling around somewhere. To let a two-year-old outside alone is probably considered as neglect, though.
Remember they’re the kids, we’re the adults, and put down that phone and pay attention to where your car is headed.June 22, 2018 10:43 am at 10:43 am #1545031hujuParticipant
Hashem is watching. Parents are overrated.
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