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  • #1471389

    Goldilocks
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    If I make a fruit punch for my purim seuda that includes vodka as an ingredient, is there any way to calculate how much of this I can drink and still be (legally) allowed to drive afterwards?

    #1471460

    Meno
    Participant

    Yes, but you’ll have to answer a few questions first:

    – How much punch are you making?
    – What percentage of the vodka is alcohol?
    – How much blood do you have?
    – Where do you live?

    #1471485

    laskern
    Participant

    It says תחת השמים לא תשכח by the annihilation of Amolek. If you take the letters under השמים for example under ה is ו and so on you get a gematria of 526 which adds up to the word שכור indicating even when you drunk don’t forget Amolek.

    #1471494

    iacisrmma
    Participant

    By a personal breathalyzer tester. OR DON’T DRINK AND DRIVE even if your BAL is below the legal maximum.

    #1471495

    Health
    Participant

    Goldilocks – Why don’t you use wine? I once made a punch like that.

    #1471506

    DovidBT
    Participant

    If you drink enough so that you can’t distinguish between Haman and Mordechai, as you’re supposed to, you’ll be too drunk to drive. So it’s a moot point.

    #1471871

    Goldilocks: Please tell me what neighborhood you will be driving and at what time. This way I know to stay in the house and not take the chance of being hit by someone “under the influence”.

    #1471873

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    You’re not supposed to drink enough that you can’t distinguish between Haman and Mordechai.

    #1471898

    laskern
    Participant

    The Gemora mentions the incident where Raba shechted Rabbi Zeroh so the Rishonim forbade to get to this level because of its danger but others say that this was not literal but figurative. The word until in drink until he does not distinguish is not inclusive.

    #1471900

    Gadolhadorah
    Participant

    The “drinking” issue has been taken to levels of absurdity and potential criminality when ther are some who are actively promoting the notion of drinking “up to the edge” of intoxication and potential life-threatening behavior. I suspect i will take c’v the death or serious injury of a family member of some adom chashuv before the rabbonim decide enough is enough and simply assur excess drinking on Purim. There is NO rational reason why anyone should ever drink to excess (defined as more than they would ordinarily drink) on Purim any more than any other yom tov. If you disagree, consult a first responder or Zakah rather than any mindless yid promoting ad shelo yadah as a chiuv that translates into intoxication.i

    #1471921

    Meno
    Participant

    There is NO rational reason why anyone should ever drink to excess (defined as more than they would ordinarily drink) on Purim any more than any other yom tov

    The fact that it’s mitzvah is not a rational reason?

    If you want to give svaros why people shouldn’t drink, go ahead – I might even agree with you. But don’t try and pretend that halachos don’t exist.

    #1471929

    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    Katanhadorah is won’t to do that

    #1471944

    laskern
    Participant

    The Chidushei Harim has an interesting idea about drinking on Purim. A man collected and set aside a lot of money to do an averoh. He met a very poor family who needed the money. Having mercy on them, he completely forgot why he put aside the money and gave it to them. The heavenly court became very impressed with his deed and decided to grant anything he wished. They became afraid that he will wish something that they are not ready to grant him, the redemption. So, they decreed that his whole life he will have to be drunk to be out of his mind. Purim is a very sacred day where they grant any wish כל הפושט יד נותנים לו whoever stretches up his hand is granted whatever he wants. We can ask for the redemption but it might not be time yet, so the chachomim decreed to be drunk this day.

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    #1471989

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    There is a difference between drinking, getting drunk, and getting dangerously close to alcohol poisoning.

    #1472283

    iacisrmma
    Participant

    The RAMAH (695:2) states “YEISH OMRIM D’EIN TZARICH L’HISHTAKER KOL KACH, ELAH YISHTEH YOSER MILIMUDAI V’YISHAN U’MITOCH SHEHYISHAN EINO YODEA BEIN ARRUR HAMAN L’VARUCH MORDECHAI.

    http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49628&st=&pgnum=320

    #1473486

    Goldilocks
    Participant

    I don’t have regular internet access so I can’t post here often.
    To clarify: I’m not planning to drink a whole lot. But I’m by nature the type of person who can handle alcohol well, so I might feel fine and actually be fine, but still might get into legal trouble if I’m stopped for any reason while driving.

    #1473690

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    But by nature, a person affected by alcohol is overconfident. That’s why you need a babysitter.

    #1475304

    You can actually be alright when you leave, but have more of
    the alcohol you drank enter your bloodstream along the way.
    (Thanks, NoiseVerb.)

    #1475541

    iacisrmma
    Participant

    Goldilocks: Even 1 drink can have an affect you. Better to be safe and hand your key to someone else.

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