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    lightitup
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    What would you say about reading your friends text messages or contact list if they let you play around with their phone and normally don’t write personal things via text, and don’t tell you not to do so? And what if thats not OK and you succumbed to the temptation. Is there are a way to do Teshuva as well as should you admit to them what you did, or not?

    Thanks!

    #829777

    Sam2
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    It’s under the Cherem of Rabbeinu Gershom, as well as an Issur D’Oraisa, probably several.

    #829778

    mik5
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    it’s assur to read other people’s mail. if you can’t resist the yetzer hara, don’t touch other people’s phones.

    i’m not sure about t’shuva, but it’s just not a nice thing to do – since the person trusts you and gives you his or her phone

    #829779

    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    You should not do it.

    As far as teshuva, I wouldn’t worry about that too much- just stop doing it. It isn’t nice to your friends.

    #829780

    MichaelC
    Member

    Rabbeinu Gershom made a Takana against reading people’s post or letters

    #829781

    sam4321
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    Rabbeinu Gershom instituted some bans and one of them is not to read someones private mail.(same one who banned polygamy)

    #829782

    HaLeiVi
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    An easy way out, if it applies, is to borrow it again for the sake of and with permission for, reading the texts. If you get permission easily, it won’t be a big deal to appologize for looking without permission.

    #829783

    real-brisker
    Member

    Its equalivent to reading a letter they wrote or recived from someone. it’s one of the Cheriem D’irabenu Gerson.

    #829784

    Sam2
    Participant

    Since everyone is misquoting it here, I will make an important point. Reading someone else’s mail is an Issur D’Oraisa (either Nezek, Geneivas Da’as, maybe others). Rabbeinu Gershom did not create the Issur. He just made it stronger by adding a Cherem.

    #829785

    sam4321
    Participant

    Sam2: No one is misquoting anything. The reason why the cherem was instituted is a topic of debate. There is a shita which says if the proper nusach of the specific seal parutz geder… is not on it then one could read it. So the initial source is Rabbenu gershom. Even if the recipient gives permission to read it is still not so pashut another could read it,maybe the sender is makpid.

    #829786

    More descriptive thread titles would be nice.

    #829787

    Sam2
    Participant

    Sam4: Everyone always assumes (by all Cherems of Rabbeinu Gershom) that the Cherem created the Issur. I am pointing out that that is not necessarily the case.

    #829788

    kvodhatorah
    Member

    papa why would you not worry about the tshuva?

    #829789

    sam4321
    Participant

    Sam2: My point is exactly that,the issur which you mention according to some was only from the cherem and not before.

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