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  • #1838983
    DovidBT
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    On the 2020 U.S. Census form, question #9 (What is Person 1’s race?) has checkboxes for race, and then a 16-box field for origins.

    Would the origin be Gan Eden?

    #1839109
    Someone in Monsey
    Participant

    No, because Hashem brought Adam to Gan Eden after He created him. Our origin is either shamayim, for the neshama, or earth, for the body. One’s view of his true origin will reveal how he perceives himself.

    #1839152
    DovidBT
    Participant

    I wonder what the motivation is, in asking people to provide their origins. How will that information be used, other than to publish some pretty statistical charts?

    #1839225
    Joseph
    Participant

    The Census has already been sent out and received by folks?

    #1839246
    DovidBT
    Participant

    The Census has already been sent out and received by folks?

    You can preview the questionnaire at 2020census DOT gov.

    #1839282
    pro geshmake yidden
    Participant

    Very geshmake question
    Last time we checked off “other” and on the tinesky shminesky line we wrote the chain of the mesoirah from moishe to yehoishua to the zekeinim v’chulei v’chulei

    #1842715
    DovidBT
    Participant

    So what’s the consensus on this time-critical (one week left) issue? How should origins be filled in?

    #1842726
    Reb Eliezer
    Participant

    Where were you born?

    #1842816
    DovidBT
    Participant

    So place of birth is the appropriate response?

    #1842960
    rational
    Participant

    Place of birth is not the same as origin. Most Jews in the U.S. are of European origin, most Sephardic Jews are of North African origin. Of course, Syrian Jews would be of Middle Eastern origin.

    This question occasionally carries importance. There are genetic diseases, syndromes, predispositions to certain diseases and other health-related tendencies that are associated with certain geographical origins. For instance, the Tay-Sachs gene defect is associated with eastern European origins, particularly the Northern Poland-Lithuanian area.

    This information can be used to form public health policy, location of screenings, availability of certain special medical equipment or specialties, etc…

    A hypothetical example: Suppose a certain origin predisposes to the eye disease called glaucoma, a silent disease. Suppose a certain neighborhood has a large number of people of this origin. It would be a good idea to conduct a glaucoma screening in this neighborhood as a means to identify possible people with this disease.

    #1843532
    DovidBT
    Participant

    @rational

    Do you really think the government will use the information in that manner?

    #1843585
    Reb Eliezer
    Participant

    rational, How far does origin go back? I don’t know more than my grandfather? Jewis have been exiled from one place to another.

    #1844098
    DovidBT
    Participant

    I decided to stick with Gan Eden, where my earliest known ancestor lived. The instructions didn’t provide a definition for “origins”, so I was forced to use my own definition.

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