Question on Brachah of a certain Derivative of an Unspecified Plant

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    Neville ChaimBerlin
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    There is a certain consumable good upon consumption of which a brachah is required. It is questionable whether one would make the brachah associated with the plant from which this product comes, or rather a different one due to the amount of processing the product goes though.

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    #1560163

    ChadGadya
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    It’s shehakol.

    #1560378

    yitzyk
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    Maybe you mean chocolate. Chocolate is widely accepted as Shehakol, even though there are some good arguments that it should be a Haeitz.

    Or maybe you mean beer. Tosofos asks why we don’t make a Mezonos on beer, but concludes that we make only shehakol on liquids (except for wine.)

    Perhaps you meant instant mashed potatoes or Pringles. These are a machlokes, Rav Moshe holds that they are Ha’adamah, while many others hold that they are Shehakol.

    Besides, you said “There is a certain consumable good upon consumption of which a brachah is required.” – what ‘consumable good’ DOESN’T require a brocha?

    #1560555

    iacisrmma
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    Yes, I do make a shehakol on chocolate.

    #1560558

    halachamaven
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    any clue why the entire thread about grape juice was deleted??

    #1560663

    halachamaven
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    is yeshiva world is in cahoots with kedem?? what do you think nevillechamberlin?

    #1560683

    yehudayona
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    yitzyk, oral medications are consumable and do not require a bracha. I believe salt does not require a bracha either.

    #1560724

    Toi
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    Weed?

    #1560739

    adocs
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    The “unspecified plant” is not the only ingredient. As with any other food made of multiple ingredients, the bracha would depend on issues of ikar/tafel and/or rov/miut.

    #1560855

    yitzyk
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    Swallowing something does not mean it’s a ‘consumable’. You can swallow tissues too. The purpose of swallowing unflavored tablets or capsules is to get it inside your stomach, without providing any enjoyment or benefit to your mouth or throat. That is why we don’t make a brocha on medicine. If oral medication has flavor and sweetener, it might indeed need a brocha (and a hechsher too.)

    Salt is not eaten by itself, and if eaten by itself for health reasons (?) will indeed need a brocha – unless it is harmful. in which case it is not ‘supposed to be consumed.’

    In any case, my point was just that the OP was so vague, that I failed to understand what he meant. I proposed a few possibilities.

    #1562186

    Neville ChaimBerlin
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    Salt eaten by itself I think would not require a brachah for the same reason that raw potatoes and olive oil (by itself) don’t require brachas.

    Wait, Reb Moshe really said Pringles were adamah?

    And, who’s to say I wasn’t talking about granola bars?

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