Questions About Gebrokts

I imagine the problem is twofold: Firstly, other than water we are choshesh that chometz happens faster. Secondly, in your example the crumbs would be all over infecting the keilim.

“Because that is the Minhag.”

I once asked a friend of mine, who keeps gebrux, about saliva in the mouth. After all, saliva is machmits. He said to me ain hachi nami, but that’s the minhag. Some do apply some svara to the issue of gebrux. For example, my wife’s family would wet matsa with pure OJ, not from concentrate. I see it as a sfek afaika for those that keep gebrux.

If you want to stop keeping it, ask a Rav.

I have never understood – zol zahn that Achron shel Pesach is Derabanan – if you will not eat something because you are ???? for ???, then why on earth do you eat it on last day ????

if u eat matza and drink with some pieces still in your mouth isnt that gebrokts?

My Rav Pam hagada had a story about his grandfather who was the Av beis din in shidlitz. He personally ate gebrokts, but many in his town were chassidish so they didn’t.

Out of respect for them, he would only eat his gebrokts privately and not when people were around. This was in contrast to the previous av beis din who would display kneidlach in his windows to show that the minhag was in his opinion wrong.

Well, one seder night, a man knocked at his door carrying a large wrapped up package, and said he had a shaila. So they went into the other room, and the man unwrapped layer after layer after layer until he pulled out a small piece of matza, and said that it had fallen into a large pot of food: is the food muttar.

So he told him that chometz is oser b’mashehu, but matza is not oser b’mashehu.

Why would anyone EVER be so concerned about an accidental violation of what is by all opinions minhag and not halachah? Why, there isn’t even any penalty for an inadvertant violation of a mitzvah d’rabbanan! Just try to be more careful for the future, and enjoy the remainder of Pesach.

Charlie

the piece of matza had fallen into the pot (not in a dish). I assume it was the kli rishon cooking on the fire.

Those who have a minhag to avoid, do not eat in a pot used for gebrokts. There is not a real halachic concern about flour that did not mix properly, because even if there were, it was baked along with the matza, and we are taught such baked flour does not create chometz (although it’s rabbinically forbidden to deliberately mix baked flour with water). But yet those who avoid, can’t eat (for the 7 days) in a pot used for gebrokts. So the shaila (of course it is a question about a specific minhag, not about halacha) is if the food can be eaten and possibly there is also a question if the pot can still be used e.g. the next day (when it would be deliberate and not accidental). I don’t think it is a trivial question.

nishtdayngesheft – We had a big ?????? once what exactly is considered a ‘???? ??? ? ????’ – we had a four way ????? going on!!

Charles,

For the record, the answer from R Meir Pam ZT”L belies your statement.

He said that the ??? is not ???? ??? ????. However, it follows, in a greater amount, for those who are ????? on ????? there would be an issue.