February 23, 2013 9:07 pm at 9:07 pm #608329
It struck me this morning that there are different expressions in the megila for the ?????.
First ??? plans ?????? ?? ?? ??????? but only asks permission from ???????? to ????. The letters say ?????? ????? ?????, but ????? only tells ???? about the ?????? part of it.
I have an idea that I am working on to explain this. Was wondering if anyone else noticed this and what they had to offer as a ??? – ????? ???? or otherwise!February 24, 2013 12:01 am at 12:01 am #933294YW Moderator-127Moderator
<—This moderator has a place in the Megila.February 24, 2013 10:15 am at 10:15 am #933295
In ??? ?’, we say the ten sons of Haman were hung.
A few pesukinm later we mention how Esther asks Achashveirush for an extra day for the people of Shushan to fight and to kill the ten sons of Haman.
But we already said they were hung?February 24, 2013 2:11 pm at 2:11 pm #933296supermeMember
Same question that I had!!! Was thinking that mayne it’s bec ??? ????? ?????? ?????”February 24, 2013 4:02 pm at 4:02 pm #933297shmoolik 1Participant
question 2 read carefully the ten sons are killed on the first day the next day their bodies are hung as per request of EstherFebruary 25, 2013 12:54 am at 12:54 am #933298WIYMember
Get the Gra’s (Vilna Gaons) peirush on Megillah, all questions will be answered and then some! He addresses yours.February 25, 2013 1:14 am at 1:14 am #933299☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
🙂 lad pi drush. nuremvberg trials. ??? small lettersFebruary 25, 2013 2:01 pm at 2:01 pm #933300☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
Question #2 is the mekor for a hang-over.February 25, 2013 3:38 pm at 3:38 pm #933301Ðash®Participant
After Mordechai told Esther that is she didn’t go to the king the jews would be saved in another way but her family would be annihilated, what right did she have to go to the king?February 25, 2013 4:11 pm at 4:11 pm #933302tina18Participant
yaff80 – as WIY says – the gaon and Malbim answer these questions –
You wont figure it out on your own and once you understand it their way the story is way different then you probably think right now. There are some great shiurim online if your interestedFebruary 25, 2013 4:37 pm at 4:37 pm #933303
WIY & Tina18:
Can you provide a grid reference for the Gra or Malbim? I looked in the GRA and couldnt find an answer to Question 1.February 25, 2013 4:48 pm at 4:48 pm #933304MorahRachMember
Yaff!!! I had the same question. It bothered me so much I couldn’t understand.February 25, 2013 5:36 pm at 5:36 pm #933305tina18Participant
Yaffa80, morahrach – see last post
Will try to post more later and hopefully help (bz now sorry)February 25, 2013 7:22 pm at 7:22 pm #933306ThePurpleOneMember
mordechai sed IF she didnt go, then..February 28, 2013 1:51 am at 1:51 am #933307HaLeiViParticipant
Le’abed is the effect. Haman needed permission from Achashveirosh to empty out his land. The Gemara talks about those who would have killed us out but didn’t want to be seen as a sliced up kingdom. Achashveirosh wouldn’t really mind having the Jews killed. It is losing subjects that would be the issue.
Le’hashmid means to wipe out. That says all you need to know if you are trying to be specific. When arousing the public he used all descriptions: wipe-out, kill and decimate.February 28, 2013 6:21 pm at 6:21 pm #933308oomisParticipant
Re: Hanging of Haman’s sons – The Megillah tells us they were hanged (almost as an aside), THEN goes on to recount the actual events leading to the hanging.
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