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    nevuah
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    People often use religion to justify cruelty by weaponizing faith to validate hatred, control, or abuse, allowing individuals to feel morally superior while inflicting harm. According to psychological and sociological perspectives, this occurs when believers pervert religious teachings to excuse bigotry, domestic violence, or political oppression, viewing their actions as serving a greater divine good or protecting eternal souls.

    Key mechanisms behind this behavior include:

    Moral Licensing and Justification: Believers may commit harmful acts, such as conversion therapy or exclusion, believing they are saving others from eternal damnation, thereby removing personal guilt.
    Authoritarianism and Ignorance: Religious structures can encourage followers to discard evidence-based reasoning in favor of authority, leading otherwise “good” people to perpetuate lies, bigotry, or violence under the guise of duty.
    Fear and Control: Leaders may use threats of hell or divine wrath to manipulate followers, creating a culture where cruelty is framed as a necessary tool for maintaining order or purity.
    Tribalism and Us-vs-Them Dynamics: Religion can foster an addictive cycle of righteous anger toward outsiders, providing a guilt-free excuse to indulge in hate against those perceived as sinful or non-believing.
    Compartmentalization: Individuals may separate their religious identity from their daily empathy, using faith as a convenient tool for power or status rather than a consistent moral compass, leading to hypocrisy and cruelty toward neighbors or family members.

    #2544107
    mobico
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    Hmm … wondering why the mods let this through. This seems to be a criticism of Frumkeit, spouting a number of Hashkafos that range from problematic to outright anti-Torah.
    Mabe I am missing something, as the subject line is giibberish to me.

    #2544157
    35TQ9lm5B
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    the ramchal famously said in a prayer:

    פָּתַח בִצְלוֹתָא וְאָמַר, רִבּוֹן עָלְמִין, אַנְתְּ אִיהוּ פְּנִימָאָה דְּכָל פְּנִימָאִין, וּבְרָאָה דְּכָל בְּרָאִין, דְּאַנְתְּ מִלְּגַו וּמִלְּבַר וְלֵית אֲתַר בְּעָלְמָא בַּר מִינָךְ.

    god! you are the internal of all internal things and the external of all external things, you are internal and external and thare is nothing besides you.

    #2544158
    35TQ9lm5B
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    the ramchal famously said in a prayer:

    פָּתַח בִצְלוֹתָא וְאָמַר, רִבּוֹן עָלְמִין, אַנְתְּ אִיהוּ פְּנִימָאָה דְּכָל פְּנִימָאִין, וּבְרָאָה דְּכָל בְּרָאִין, דְּאַנְתְּ מִלְּגַו וּמִלְּבַר וְלֵית אֲתַר בְּעָלְמָא בַּר מִינָךְ.

    god! you are the internal of all internal things and the external of all external things, you are internal and external and thare is nothing besides you.

    #2544263
    nevuah
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    Sorry my bad I read half of it before posting.
    Let’s rephrase

    Moral Licensing and Justification: Believers may commit harmful acts, exclusion, believing they are saving others from eternal damnation, thereby removing personal guilt.

    Tribalism and Us-vs-Them Dynamics: people with Dogmatic beliefs can foster an addictive cycle of righteous anger toward outsiders, providing a guilt-free excuse to indulge in hate against those perceived as sinful or non-believing. Even when those beliefs are not at all against the religion..
    Compartmentalization: Individuals may separate their dogmatic identity from their daily empathy, using dogma as a convenient tool for power or status rather than a consistent moral compass, leading to hypocrisy and cruelty toward neighbors or family members.

    #2544265
    nevuah
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    Ok my bad I shouldn’t be so mean to quewrty but we are trying wake him up a smidge

    #2544354
    qwerty613
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    To mobico

    It’s far worse than a criticism of frumkeit. The fellow who started this thread is a maniac who now calls himself Nevuah, but he showed up at YWN about three months ago with the handle rescue. It makes no difference. He keeps posting the same Kefirah, such as only brainless sheeple(that’s his favorite word) follow the Torah blindly, but G-d wants us to use our free will and only follow those laws that are based on common sense. He’s a kofer in Hashem and in the Torah and obviously the Gemara etc. He’s announced that he alone knows which laws of the Torah people should keep. He’s totally insane. He used my name in this post, because I was the first one to call him out and I’ve been doing so consistently. You’re right to ask why the moderators allow him to spew his trash, but it’s our job to drive him out by calling him what he is a Sonei Hashem.

    #2544507
    ??coffee addict
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    Qwerty,

    Maybe if he is ignored he’ll just go away, please don’t answer it’ll just fuel a cycle between you and him

    #2544571

    I think this double-dipping poster is using language unusual for us, but he is looking at reasonable issues.

    It is reasonable to consider “religiosity” and where it is done right or wrong way. As R Berel Wein writes – world is better of when Jews are religious, and non-Jews are not and worse of when it is other way around. Meaning when non-jews are “religious”, they destroy things in the name of their religion, and non-religious Jews “leave no place for other nations” (Beitzah 25b). Similarly, we have a notion that after BM1, both nevuah and avoda zorah left – these ideas are connected.

    So, we should definitely continue checking ourselves, as baalei mussar suggest, that we are doing it the right way. As the story of students of R Akiva indicates, it is possible to do it the wrong way .. and so do many CR posts.

    #2544572

    > quewrty

    a side note – there is no easier name that qwerty. You just move your paw to the right. How can one be misspelling that.

    #2544614
    nevuah
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    I keep posting the same kefirah….. Is that another word for censorship of everything you dont agree with because that’s fascism. Judism condones fascism.? Its not sapposed to be but clearly it does.
    Your proud to be a fascist. Good for you. See I don’t like fascism. I think it shuts down real human conversation. Connection. Diversity. You know why cuz every single person on earth has a different perspective and different thoughts. Usually it ends up mirroring each other but the differences creates a beutifull pairing of truth. We are not desighned the same, we don’t look the same we don’t have the same hair color. We have all different kinds of circumstances. Therefore we also have different perspectives and oppions. You cannot force all people to have the same thinking just like you cannot force people to have the same taste or the same facial features.
    Differance of oppion is not “kefirah” your using that word to shut down any conversation you don’t like. Difference of oppion actually steieghthens the truth. Because even if you disagree you learn more about your own convictions.
    I was reading today that the more you iscolate yourself into an echo chamber the more judgmental it makes you become becuse humans like what they are used to and reject what they are not. So when you only expose yourself to one viewpoint you will automatically other, other people that don’t think like you. That’s not nature that’s indoctrination.
    Instead of villifying you should think and answer
    Because if the only thing you have is insults it means you don’t have a good comeback.

    #2545083
    qwerty613
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    To ?? coffee addict

    I do ignore most of his comments. I’ll try to heed your advice and ignore him completely. Unlike most posters, I accept Mussar if it’s appropriate.

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