Reading Teacher/Specialist

Many schools work with graduates to help with placement. Have you tried the alumni affairs office of your school?

The Wolf

anyone know the job market these days? my daughter is getting her masters in education/literacy and will be looking for a job (that pays!)- what do you think?

Job market for education is the worst its been in DECADES. I am stuck in a similar position. Wolf- yes, schools have placement offices. But those can only do so much when there’s nowhere to place…

jobless:

Let me understand this. You finished a masters in a field which requires you to work with kids when they’re available (after school/sundays??) and then are having a hard time getting a job which allows you to be home with your kids after school?

You were ill-advised…

When my daughter was looking at careers, she was told (by one of the frum “ezpass” degree programs) – become a therapist, you can make your own hours. Sure – (insert sarcasm here) – no one wants to take their child to a therapist after school, or on sundays….only when it’s convenient to you.

we and our daughters have become victims of the entitlement mentality. If you want to earn a decent living, you need to work – and work hard. If be”h you are successful, THEN you can make your hours and pick your clients..

I actually just registered today for special education grad school. I was deciding between a special education and a teaching literacy program. I chose special ed because I think there are more work opportunities. Does anyone know more about the two fields? I still have two weeks to change my mind…

Jobless, Hatzlacha in finding a job. I actually have a masters in teaching literacy but my experience using it did not come along as I would have imagined. I’m actually a high school teacher and I use it with my S.E. students in all subject areas (yes, including math) to help my students with comprehension skills. All I can suggest is, get into a [S.E.] school system and build up your reputation that way. It will take a few years, but if your good, your name will run before you.

anonymiss ive been doing my research and it seems like there’s nothing to do since e/t is flooded-accounting, speech and ot, special ed, teachers, social workers…. please do advise cuz im in middle of my b.a. and now im stuck. i like working with ppl so what jobs are available??????helppp!!!

I don’t know the statistics of it, but it seems to me that a very high percentage of children are receiving “special” education.

Is there any reason why we are still calling this “special education” instead of just training our mainstream teachers in these methods? It seems we are creating twice as many educators as we need.

anonymiss- you mentioned paralegal and computer programming as career options. Do you personally know anyone who recently entered either of these fields and makes a decent salary working part-time? Generally, well-paying office jobs require full-time hours plus some, not ideal for a young mother.

As you also mentioned, physical therapy can be a good option; just realize that it frequently requires strenuous physical labor, such as lifting or moving disabled children/adults, also not ideal for a young mother.

Bozo- May I recommend a book that I really found useful, “Do What You Are.”

There are many more professions out there with which you may not yet be familiar; however, if you are really interested in pursuing one of the more typical professions, go for it.

If it’s very “you”, you’ll probably do fine in it, and you’ll enjoy your job!

anonymisss- im actually not looking at the jewish programs, too expensive and SOME arent on a high education level to actually learn something. a paralegal is being the lawyers slave without getting paid enough. physical therapist is too physically hard for me and computer programmer is with computers and i dont like the screen kind of job. i actually am interested in audiologist but seems like u need a phd. i want to be a history proffesor but takes years and gotta teach until then and make no money. so nothing is working out so far, keep the ideas coming! what masters did u go back to school for??

Bozo- I actually know a few people who mastered in speech and specialized in audiology. It seems to me that the market is flooded with mainstream proffesionals, but there is always a need for specialists. I personally know three parents that are looking for feeding therapists, and another few that need a sensory intergration therapist…

Although audiology and speech-language pathology are related fields and are certified by the same organization (ASHA), in order to practice in either one, you need to have a separate degree. You can not get a masters in speech, and then practice as an audiologist. You are correct about requiring a doctorate to practice as an audiologist, but if that is what you are interested in, it is certainly worth looking into further.

My cousin is a history prof, makes a nice living.

~a~

This is a very depressing thread. It reminds me of my personal experience in Eretz Yisroel. I personally was planning on learning full time for far longer, however, a family member strongly persuaded me to teach in his Yeshiva Ketana, which is considered quite respectable in Eretz Yisroel. The Yeshiva was built for lower achieving students, but in reality the vast majority needed professional special ed. After asking two gedolim, I started college, BA, MEd, as well as a three year Learning Disability Evaluation program, and other courses. I’ve had various positions, most paid close to nothing, with other issues as well.

As someone else pointed out here. I think your best bet is finding something necessary without being overflooded. Off the tip of my tongue, possibly Clinical Psychology, Play Therapy.

Good luck.

Pharmacists do earn nicely, but only a BA?! Try a doctorate! It is a six-year program, though, not like a full PhD. LIU is a popular college option, though there are others.

I’m an unemployed teacher certified in special ed and math. I have two master’s degrees from reputable colleges. It’s a very tough market, which is why I’m back in school to earn certification in a field where there’s a shortage (and very few programs turning out teachers). The problem, of course, is that everybody jumps into the field that currently seen as having a shortage, so there ends up being a surplus of people in that field. You have to stay a step ahead of the crowd. If the frum programs are pushing degrees in (insert field here), it’s probably too late. Also, if a school has a choice of hiring (a) someone with experience, (b) someone without experience but with a degree from a real college, or (c) someone without experience and with a degree from one of the frum programs, which do think comes in third? A yeshiva might hire someone in category c, but the pay will probably be low and the check will probably be late.

To do P-3 (available only in NYC), you need to be certified in special education (or students with disabilities, as the newer certification is called). I’ve done it, and it’s OK for extra income, but of course there are no benefits.

Anybody out there familiar with opportunities in nursing? I believe it used to be a field with a shortage where you could make your own hours. The preparation is rigorous, so if you’re looking for an easy degree, forget it.

…which means you need to be certified to teach high school.

~a~

bozo, engineering is generally a safe bet.

Unless things have changed recently, you must be certified in Special Education or Students with Disabilities in order to do P3. Theoretically, you can make good money, but good luck getting those groups together. The yeshivas aren’t interested in P3’s before 2:00 PM, the blocks are typically 40 or 45 minutes, the kids don’t show up, etc. I know one frum provider who does Catholic schools in the morning and yeshivas in the afternoon. Guess which group she prefers to work with.

If you do P3 through an agency, they’ll take a cut. I’ve always done it directly, so I don’t know what the cut is, but I suspect it’s more than nominal.

Bozo, I mentioned that I’m back in school to get an additional certification in a field where there’s a shortage. It’s Teacher of the Blind and Visually Impaired. I believe there are only three colleges in NYS that offer it: Hunter, Teachers College, and Dominican.

try contacting leah david at ohr halimud in brooklyn. she runs a school that uses o-g and also offers teacher training in the o-g method, so she may have recommendations for you. hatzlacha

I spoke to Leah David last week and her recommendation was to send the child to BP. I need someone in Williamsburg.

Dear Ms. Jobless,

The question is where and how you got your degree from. Yes, because many areas are flooded many agencies have the upper hand and look at where you got your degree from. Some ez programs which may sound quick and easy to do won’t get you far in the job market today because of availability. Speaking for myself i was from the first group of SEIT bilinguals certified in 1992. In those years we had the phone number of the top person in DOE in Albany who answered our questions and guided us.

If you are professional, like what you are doing and with good schooling there should be no problem with getting a job. With myself i have as much work that i want and when i want it. This year i decided not to take cases and yes i was called back to work and pick and choose my cases.

Your objective should be enjoying what you are or will be doing.If the primary objective is earning alot money, that will come through and no job for you and even if you land a job and are just busy counting how much money you will earn, you won’t last long working. Yes, i know you need the parnassah but you can’t make that the main thing now. Start at what you can get and you can work your way up if you are good at what you do.

Currently i am taking my grandchild for P/T to an agency run and owned by frum people but hiring physical therapists with schooling from top schools not the overnight degree programs. None of the parents, most of whom are ultra frum have an issue with children being serviced by different ethnicities and who don’t speak Yiddish or men servicing girls. The parents want quality servicing!! So if you want to land a good job do it the right way not throug such as programs which sound as right but called REIT(pronounced right).

Too many P3 providers are those therapists who were doing SEIT and went through many agencies who saw through them very quickly and no more cases for them.

Another issue about P3 in schools is that they may hire a superviser who is the so called P3 provider who signs for all children who are approved and this supervisor then hires young girls for as low as $10 to provide services. So yes, this supervisor has a good job and the school does not have to pay them a salary and someone without a degree is doing the work. Some of these girls without degrees may or may not be qualified…and even if yes will not go to any college program.

Good Luck to all of you going for quick degrees but remember most parents will do information on therapists as by a shidduch.