September 5, 2014 6:12 pm at 6:12 pm #1031568zahavasdadParticipant
I dont know what exactly has happend with Bais Rivka in Crown Heights, The happend this year. Its still in flux so I cant tell you what happend to those girls.
Perhaps someone from Crown Heights knows more info.
I do know it has been in serious financial difficulties from last year so the problem is severeSeptember 5, 2014 6:24 pm at 6:24 pm #1031569☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
I looked at a CH website. I’ll tell you what happened so far; they had a day or two off.
Let me know when hundreds of girls flood the public school system. It didn’t happen yet, and won’t happen.September 5, 2014 6:40 pm at 6:40 pm #1031570
DaasYochid – Im Kain, “we as in Gedolei Yisroel” should be prioritizing children’s tuition (which after all, is the halacha as brought in Shulchan Aruch) over all of these other Tzedakos, so that children have a place to learn. At least Rav Pam & Rav Aharon who fought for Shuvu & Chinuch Atzmai (resp.) were consistent in their requirements for Jewish education. Today, we see the “popular” Tzadakos (such as Kupat Hair, Keren Shviis and adopt a kollel) take precedence. If it really is Pikuach Nefesh, paying children’s tuition would be a priority of the Gedolim. It is not.
P.S. This is entirely consistent with the world-view of many Gedolim (following Rav Dessler), that they would rather support Kollelim and let the children go off the Derech, given those are the only two options. I’m not saying it is wrong, but it does go back to spending yenem’s money while your own priorities are elsewhere.
P.P.S. Meheicha Teisi that pikuach nefesh would apply here? Perhaps it only applies when the child will (rightfully) reject Yiddishkeit because it rejected him/her, not where you have someone well adjusted and well behaved who will now learn at home?September 5, 2014 6:41 pm at 6:41 pm #1031571
Let me know when hundreds of girls flood the public school system. It didn’t happen yet, and won’t happen.
And it won’t, even if they do close. Parents will home school when they realize they can no longer get a free ride from their private school.September 5, 2014 6:44 pm at 6:44 pm #1031572zahavasdadParticipant
They havent started school yet it seems, I suppose at this moment people are hoping the school will open, but I dont think it has yetSeptember 5, 2014 9:12 pm at 9:12 pm #1031573☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
Gavra, if you think homeschooling is an option, than I suppose you wouldn’t have an issue we with a kid being expelled for minor misbehavior which the school is too lazy to deal with, or, for that matter, for a school to discriminate based on narrow differences in “frumkeit”.
You’re in the small minority, and I suppose I’m not talking to you. Shalom al Yisroel.September 7, 2014 3:45 am at 3:45 am #1031574
DY – aderaba, I am a strong believer in the absolute requirement for any community to have a serious community school, where everyone sends and the community supports. If the community believes in educating ALL of the children in the community, then the whole point is moot.
Every other type of school is and should be treated as existing solely for the profits (larger salaries and bonuses for non profits) of the owners or the need for exclusiveness by the parents of the students. For those schools I have no expectations, and yes, if the owner decides a child is too much trouble (or not smart enough, yeshivish, chassidish, internet, TV, etc.) then the child will be removed (and in some neighborhoods, that is exactly what happens). For someone who CV lives in such a community, they should realize no one is looking out for them and the school is only a service, and that you may not get if you dont pay.
And sorry, it is a shanda that the gedolim dont care enough to open schools in every Jewish community where everyone in a community can go, whether they can pay or not. That is exactly what the Alter of Navardok did.September 7, 2014 4:06 am at 4:06 am #1031575JosephParticipant
gavra, who do you expect to fund the free schooling you expect the gedolim to open?September 8, 2014 12:48 pm at 12:48 pm #1031576
gavra, who do you expect to fund the free schooling you expect the gedolim to open?
Straw man. I didn’t say “free”. I said available to all, whether they can pay or not.September 9, 2014 2:56 am at 2:56 am #1031577JosephParticipant
And, gavra, how will the Gedolim fund the non-paying students, per your insistence? Will it be by raising the tuition on the paying students to cover the non-paying students?September 9, 2014 1:57 pm at 1:57 pm #1031578
Lior: By making it clear to the community and to the parents that paying for the school and their tuition is a priority over other Tzedakos. The money is there, just currently it goes to Lakewood, Benei Brak and Adopt a Kollel, as well as supporting sons-in-law in various Kollels (and I won’t even start with Seminary!).
In fact, many non east coast areas already have community schools in place, because the Gevirim in those areas know the school is their responsibility. If it were a priority, the same thing could be implemented in east coast areas.
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