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August 8, 2011 7:18 pm at 7:18 pm #598511mommamia22Participant
Does anyone know any further detail about what’s going on in london? Who is starting these riots and why???
August 8, 2011 7:29 pm at 7:29 pm #795824TheGoqParticipantFrom my understanding it started because of a police shooting.
August 8, 2011 7:34 pm at 7:34 pm #795825HachamMemberWho is starting these riots and why???
The same kind of people that start riots in America.
August 8, 2011 7:38 pm at 7:38 pm #795826mommamia22ParticipantPolice shooting of whom? Sorry for my ignorance, but I’m not seeing details online.
August 8, 2011 7:42 pm at 7:42 pm #795827yitayningwutParticipantSearch 2011 London Riots on Wikipedia, it’ll tell you all about it. As Goq said it started because of a fatal police shooting, it was of a suspected cocaine dealer.
August 8, 2011 7:42 pm at 7:42 pm #795828TheGoqParticipantFrom Fox News
“The unrest was sparked by a police shooting, but some blamed unemployment, insensitive policing and opportunistic looting for the worst violence the city has seen in years. Police and politicians insisted the disorder was the work of a criminal minority and not a sign of social tensions or security lapses ahead of the 2012 Olympic Games.”
August 8, 2011 7:48 pm at 7:48 pm #795829GetzelParticipantRiots broke out in north London on Saturday night as a peaceful march to denounce the police shooting of a young man erupted into vandalism and looting.
Two police patrol cars, a van, a building and a double-decker bus were torched in the neighbourhood of Tottenham, as rioters clashed with officers in front of the local precinct and stores were looted and set ablaze.
The melee followed a peaceful march to the station to protest against the fatal shooting of Mark Duggan, 29, a father of four who was riding in a taxi on Thursday when he apparently became involved in a gunfight with police.
“It’s really bad,” said local resident David Akinsanya, 46. “There are two police cars on fire. I’m feeling unsafe.”
Stores looted
Sirens could be heard across the city as authorities rushed reinforcements to the scene. Shop windows in Tottenham were smashed as residents looted stores, pushing shopping carts full of stolen goods down the street.
Youths used aerosol cans to set fire to store shelves of a shop, while other rioters deployed poles, shopping carts and plastic storage bins to build barriers in the street as they confronted police.
Officers in riot gear and on horseback pushed up against the demonstrators. Akinsanya put the number of demonstrators at between 400 and 500. Police said about 300 people had gathered.
Miles from the tourist hotspots of the central capital, Tottenham is the poorest neighbourhood in London and the eighth-poorest in the country. Nearly half of all children live in poverty, according to campaigners.
History of racial tension
The area is very diverse and home to one of the capital’s biggest black populations. The area also has a history of racial tension and anti-police feeling.
In 1985 Tottenham was the scene of a deadly riot after a local woman suffered a fatal heart stoppage when her home was raided by the police. The Tottenham riots were among the most violent in the country’s history, with one officer stabbed to death as he tried to protect firefighters and nearly 60 others hospitalized.
London last saw large-scale rioting in December, when thousands of students took to the streets to denounce drastic university tuition hikes and some small groups among them clashed with police.
August 8, 2011 8:06 pm at 8:06 pm #795830mommamia22ParticipantFrankly, I’m relieved it’s roots are not based in anti-semitism. It looks pretty horrible, and scary, nonetheless.
August 9, 2011 6:43 pm at 6:43 pm #795832MichaelCMemberRabbi Zeev Leff said as follows on his website (responding to a question on 18 Nov 2006.
There is a story in Talmud Succah in which a people threw esrogim who was mis-poured the nisach hamayim. It does not say anywhere that the Chachomim sanctioned this.
Chazon Ish, Steipler and Rav Shach (and all the Gedolim) said this is not the Derech of the ‘Jews’ -in most cases Jews should not riot- there are exceptions to the rule- and for this you need to ask a Rav.
August 9, 2011 7:54 pm at 7:54 pm #795833MichaelCMemberWe Jews need to come together and tell the world the only thing you should keep is the Noachide laws-tell them to tell this to there children-if they do this- then they will relise the Noachide laws (and all its components (abizzerai’s mentioned in Sanhedrin, which includes Talmudically analysing the Noachide laws)are the ONLY thing they should keep.
If they keep these laws ONLY there will be no rioting.
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